People, if you want to discuss your fetishes or crimes or whatever you want around a smart speaker, just unplug the damn thing. It’s not that hard. I got them all over the house because I’m an automation geek but I’m well aware of what I say around them. With a Pihole on the network, I don’t get targeted ads either.
Also, they don’t send your audio to their servers 24/7. I’ve verified this myself with Wireshark. That would be a hell of a lot of server resources they would need, and they can get info easier just by profiling and fingerprinting you online.
It’s technically possible to make your own 100% local smart house with an llm ( i think the best for automated text to api is called gorilla 7b ) using llama.ccp , whisper for transcription and tortoise (it got 10x faster recently ) for realistic lifelike tts.
1 powerful pc is the maestro, multiple raspberry pi l with a 10inch display and a microphone to handle the input part.
Homeassistant apparently are going all in on voice control too with their next round of updates, so hopefully soon I can get rid of the Google Home crap I got now.
I mean, everyone makes the tradeoff of convenience and privacy somewhere. You do leave some privacy behind in many aspects of your life simply because life would be much more difficult without it. You just draw your line in a different spot than someone else. It’s still simply an arbitrary line. No point in being smug because you drew your line somewhere else. Theres nothing wrong with tradeoffs as long as you’re well aware of what is involved and are ok with what you’re providing in return.
This is all true. The one problem I think they really should change though, is they KEEP the voice data they collect by mistake. When the local device thinks it heard the wake word, but the cloud analysis decided it was not said.
There is ZERO reason to keep that data long term. If they want to analyze it to reduce the incidences of this, MAYBE but then it should work like this:
1: Instantly anonymized
2: Sent into an analysis queue
3: Deleted as soon as analysis is complete (with a pretty short window for mandatory deletion).
I have a smart camera plugged into a different brand’s smart plug in my bedroom. This way we can turn the plug on when we are away and see our cat, but a hacker would be less likely able to see up sleeping. (Also we leave it off by default.)
People, if you want to discuss your fetishes or crimes or whatever you want around a smart speaker, just unplug the damn thing. It’s not that hard. I got them all over the house because I’m an automation geek but I’m well aware of what I say around them. With a Pihole on the network, I don’t get targeted ads either.
Also, they don’t send your audio to their servers 24/7. I’ve verified this myself with Wireshark. That would be a hell of a lot of server resources they would need, and they can get info easier just by profiling and fingerprinting you online.
It’s technically possible to make your own 100% local smart house with an llm ( i think the best for automated text to api is called gorilla 7b ) using llama.ccp , whisper for transcription and tortoise (it got 10x faster recently ) for realistic lifelike tts. 1 powerful pc is the maestro, multiple raspberry pi l with a 10inch display and a microphone to handle the input part.
Homeassistant apparently are going all in on voice control too with their next round of updates, so hopefully soon I can get rid of the Google Home crap I got now.
Nice, I think I should finally target that one
YET THE ABOMINABLE MACHINE SPEAKS! PURGE IT WITH HOLY FIRE!
ah yes the good old convenience > privacy
amazon thanks you
It’s not about convenience. It’s part of my hobby. I develop open source IoT devices. And I test them for interoperability with commerical solutions.
ah that’s understandable
still, I think for most people it’s simply convenience > privacy
I mean, everyone makes the tradeoff of convenience and privacy somewhere. You do leave some privacy behind in many aspects of your life simply because life would be much more difficult without it. You just draw your line in a different spot than someone else. It’s still simply an arbitrary line. No point in being smug because you drew your line somewhere else. Theres nothing wrong with tradeoffs as long as you’re well aware of what is involved and are ok with what you’re providing in return.
This is all true. The one problem I think they really should change though, is they KEEP the voice data they collect by mistake. When the local device thinks it heard the wake word, but the cloud analysis decided it was not said.
There is ZERO reason to keep that data long term. If they want to analyze it to reduce the incidences of this, MAYBE but then it should work like this:
1: Instantly anonymized
2: Sent into an analysis queue
3: Deleted as soon as analysis is complete (with a pretty short window for mandatory deletion).
This makes me happy to see your comment as the first comment in here.
Uhhh…it’s the only [top] comment here. Are you seeing something I’m not? ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
Uhhh… when I responded I was the second comment in the thread. Second is after first.
I have a smart camera plugged into a different brand’s smart plug in my bedroom. This way we can turn the plug on when we are away and see our cat, but a hacker would be less likely able to see up sleeping. (Also we leave it off by default.)