Guardian correspondent Luke Harding chronicles the key historical events that led to the invasion of Ukraine, from the Euromaidan protests to the annexation ...
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Obsessed with soviet union and imperialism you meant https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_nihilism#Disintegration_of_the_Soviet_Union

China published this on the Web just days before Russia invaded Ukraine.

There’s the strategic aspect and he spiritual aspect. Loss of Ukraine is both the practical and emotional loss of Russian significance as an empire and world power.

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  1. putin was put in by western oligarchs, he’s a capitalist, he’s not reinstating the soviet union
  2. russia is not imperialist, and has not been since the end of tsarist russia
  3. the guardian is a mouth piece for western weapons manufacturers and war hawks. it’s owned by a billionaire. they have contracts with mi6 and the pentagon and other western nationalist security agencies

this is revisionist history that ignores the facts of what happened. then not to mention the obvious bias. many people in russia wanted putin to invade back in 2014, but he was still working with the minsk accords and toiling with the trying to join the eu, but europe being treated like vassal states by the usa were told to do something else. it’s all some boomer wet dream bullshit.

so while you feed yourself the koolaid, the same people stealing our tax dollars and making our lives even worse go on wrecking the rest of the world because you believe in some evil boogey man that the cia propped up, again.

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the guardian is a mouth piece for western weapons manufacturers and war hawks. it’s owned by a billionaire. they have contracts with mi6 and the pentagon and other western nationalist security agencies

i’m gonna need to see a citation for that one; there are many critiques you can throw at the guardian but this honestly just reeks of “they don’t promote my worldview uncritically, so they’re a mouthpiece for all the things i don’t like”

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have you never read the guardian? even this article is only promoting rand corporation, boeing, goldmansachs, lockheed martin, it’s never ending pro war propaganda that you’re buying and selling now on their behalf, not to mention they’re blatantly lying, again

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Please don’t reply multiple times to the same person, make one coherent reply with all your points so we can keep things tidy. While they could have potentially asked in a nicer way, someone asking for a source does not make them a shill and does not warrant throwing accusations back at them.

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then not to mention asking for sources here is just pedantic and inflammatory rhetoric being used to justify an imperialist proxy war that nato is waging

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if you’re not willing to treat users on this instance with good faith, perhaps you should find another instance 😊

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@Gaywallet
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Hey there, I’ve given you a 3 day ban for not being nice. Please review the rules in our sidebar and be nice in the future.

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alyaza
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i mean, if you’re this confident in making the assertion and it’s that obvious, this should be extremely trivial to back up with an actual source, or literally anything which supports the point.

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the guardian itself is the source, you don’t have to look far

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i do regularly check the guardian, and post articles from them on here probably about once a week; i have not seen anything you have implied here in my examinations of their content or what i post, hence why i’m asking

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putin was put in by western oligarchs, he’s a capitalist, he’s not reinstating the soviet union

He was put in place by Russian oligarchs.

russia is not imperialist, and has not been since the end of tsarist russia

Russia under putin has extended it’s territory though military force. The definition of imperialism.

the guardian is a mouth piece for western weapons manufacturers and war hawks. it’s owned by a billionaire.

they have contracts with mi6 and the pentagon and other western nationalist security agencies

I doubt that seeing as they have published the bigest west intelligence security leaks in the last 30 years at least (i.e. the Snowden leaks and much of wikileaks stuff).

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the guardian didn’t publish those, and every major news outlet talked about them because it’s profitable, and assange is still in jail, and snowden is still in russia, it’s not like they were trying to help the whistle blowers who did an awful job anyway when you can just read the state department statements and come to all the same conclusions anyway

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yea, russian oligarchs working with western oligarchs. russia is not extending territory. the guardian is owned by a billionaire, and trusts aren’t any better, all it does is mask responsibility. they still have national security interests, they’re as conservative right wing liberal as you can get on the global stage.

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While very interesting, I wonder if this belongs in c/news?

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