movie-web was just taken down with all its repos, Yuzu was taken down, then suyu forked it on gitlab and was taken down, countless clones of nintendo games, platform emulators, and a bunch of other things are taken down because they are hosted on the clear web.
If you’re a dev and planning to write software for piracy, host it on I2P!
- mbirth ( @mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk ) English51•5 months ago
Just don’t use public and free services like GitHub or GitLab. Setup your own webspace with a trusty provider, install Gitea/Forgejo and host the code yourself. It’s that easy!
- Azzy ( @AzzyDev@beehaw.org ) English24•5 months ago
Not Gitea, they got bought by a for-profit company or something
- Venia Silente ( @veniasilente@lemm.ee ) English28•5 months ago
Ah yes. Forgejo is the current community fork.
- mbirth ( @mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk ) English12•5 months ago
So far nothing bad has happened and the company was founded so they can sell support hours to businesses. Just like lots of other companies behind Open Source projects do it. 🤷♂️
- refalo ( @refalo@programming.dev ) English2•5 months ago
Why does that matter? The most popular Linux distros are run by for-profit companies.
I’m curious what real-world scenario you’re envisioning that is likely to happen soon.
Then they can request the provider to hand out your details just like they can with github, gitlab, codeberg, or whatever.
- mbirth ( @mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk ) English5•5 months ago
But they can’t just DMCA it under false premises. GitHub and others just don’t want to risk anything and are pretty quick with taking down repos without checking anything.
Also there are still a few countries that don’t bow before the US-invention that is the DMCA.
If they don’t honor DMCA, what stops them from suing you? And if they got that far, wouldn’t you rather want a DMCA?
Probably staying on the clear web is good for discoverability, but that’s a two edged sword, because if you piss them off enough, a DMCA would be the best outcome.
- ReversalHatchery ( @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) English7•5 months ago
Clearweb platforms could have an auto synced mirror, and development could happen on i2p
That’s one way to do it 👍
- mbirth ( @mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk ) English3•5 months ago
At least in Germany, many of these copyright claims have no real legal grounds and wouldn’t hold up in an actual trial. All cases I’ve read into so far ended with a settlement - as the private person was too afraid of even more legal fees. Or were dropped completely after a while (full of empty threats) if the people never engaged with the other party.
- ReversalHatchery ( @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) English10•5 months ago
Can’t they just DMCA the provider then? To request to disable your account
- mbirth ( @mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk ) English5•5 months ago
DMCA is only valid in the US. Those other countries obeying it are usually just doing it to avoid trouble, but there’s no real legal obligation. (But if ignored, it is pretty safe to assume that any bigger company would look into local laws and try to find a different way.) But from what I’ve heard, hosters don’t just close your account because of some DMCA. They will actually look into it and work with you to solve it.
And in the end, you could simply host it on a Raspberry Pi at your home. The ISP can’t be held responsible for the data you transfer, so they won’t just shut down your Internet connection. And if you get a strongly worded letter from some company, you can send it directly to the recycling bin.
- sabreW4K3 ( @sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ) English35•5 months ago
I remember trying to play with I2P back in the day and it being slow. Now I wouldn’t even know how to access it. Is there something I can read or watch that can reintroduce me and teach me the basics?
https://geti2p.net still exists.
I2P is still slow, but that’s because there aren’t many nodes. It is faster than a few years ago though. I can get download speeds of 100 KB/s or more. It’s like TOR in the early days with mostly private nodes and few hosted nodes. It’s easy to get a VPS and host and I2P node for a fiver a month or less.
- smileyhead ( @smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de ) English8•5 months ago
I2PD is an implementation is I2P, a way to anonymously share Disney’s IP without showing anyone IP to the ISP.
- 🦄🦄🦄 ( @Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de ) English8•5 months ago
What is I2P?
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English13•5 months ago
- 🦄🦄🦄 ( @Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de ) English12•5 months ago
Thanks! I think it would be a good idea to add a short info blobb directly in your main post tho :)
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English3•5 months ago
It’s not my post so you’d have to ask OP to do that.
- B0rax ( @B0rax@feddit.de ) English2•5 months ago
Sound like the tor network? Or am I missing something?
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English14•5 months ago
https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor
Perhaps the main differences are:
- Unidirectional tunnels instead of bidirectional circuits
- Fully distributed and self organizing
- Packet switched instead of circuit switched
- Tunnels in I2P are short lived
- i2p puts an emphasis on communicating within the network, whereas Tor puts more emphasis on communicating via the network to outside
Together these provide some additional resilience and protection against traffic analysis compared to Tor, arguably improving security.
- B0rax ( @B0rax@feddit.de ) English3•5 months ago
Thanks!
- Red ( @reddthat@reddthat.com ) English4•5 months ago
Torrents over i2p: yes! Torrents over tor: no!
- PirateJesus ( @Glass0448@lemmy.today ) English9•5 months ago
Different purposes. Tor was intended so you could access the real web anonymously.
I2p the whole thing is an anonymous web. Everybody is a node. Tracing a packet never ends because you can’t be sure you found the origin of the packet. Which only gets worse the longer somebody remains connected to i2p. And it even can handle torrenting, a torrent client is built in.
I2P sadly gets a lot less funding/support.
The Invisible Internet Project (I2P) is a fully encrypted private network layer. It protects your activity and location.
Think of it as TOR, but for P2P. (TOR is not for P2P).
- ShadowCat ( @ShadowCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English7•5 months ago
just skimmed through that link and it seems like it’s for self hosting gitlab ? is there an instance on i2p so I don’t have to self host (I don’t want to) ?
There is one, but it’s also on the clearweb. Dunno if somebody hosts one purely on the darkweb
- impure9435 ( @impure9435@kbin.run ) 1•5 months ago
Also check out Radicle, it’s basically decentralized Git. @forgejo@floss.social is also working on a federation solution: @ForgeFed@floss.social (https://forgefed.org/)
Radicle can still suffer under a DMCA if it’s on the clear web. They just have to take down the node(s) hosting the repos, same as github, gitlab, et al. However if radicle works on I2P, that would be… rad 🤑
- impure9435 ( @impure9435@kbin.run ) 1•5 months ago
They are working on support for Tor, I2P and other networks: https://radicle.xyz/faq#is-there-a-way-to-run-radicle-over-tor-i2p-or-other-censorship-resistant-networks