Curious from people who follow its development closely.
- What protocol are about to be finally implemented?
- Which ones are still a struggle?
- How many serious protocols are there missing?
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Been working great for me for ~1 year on my desktop and closer to 2-3 on my laptop.
The only thing missing for me was Barrier for input sharing, which libei is supposed to fix. I ended up going for a hardware solution as Barrier is jank af anyway.
Only thing not working for me is HDR (should be fixed in Plasma 6.1), not like you could do HDR on Xorg anyway. Also no HDMI 2.1 but that’s because fuck the HDMI Forum.
Performance-wise, just blows away Xorg in every metric, and explicit sync should make that even better.
Only thing not working for me is HDR (should be fixed in Plasma 6.1)
What’s supposed to not work, and what am I supposed to have fixed in 6.1? There haven’t been any major changes to HDR since 6.0
The site is sort of outdated, but one important missing aspect there is accesibility. Here are some notes that gather links and following on the discussions on the matter in case you’re interested.
I’m going to buy an AMD video card this weekend solely so I don’t have to deal with the NVidia bullshit anymore. I’m eager to give hyperland a try.
I love hyprland, but plugging my laptop into a projector for a presentation and forgetting to mirror displays was a fun time. Hard to explain the default anime girl away without people knowing what you’re talking about. Since then I’ve learned you can disable that background lmao
Oof that sounds hella unprofessional though
That’s the hyprland community, for good and mostly bad
https://github.com/hyprwm/Hyprland/issues/2930
I have a feeling most of these people are either NEETs or never used a work computer.
I’m on the gay side of the community (and have only seen Ghibli and Cowboy Beebop which takes away a ton of credentials). Still rough, but a tad better. Downloaded a premade setup from github because it’s cute and left it with that. Outside of adding some keyboard shortcuts
It was just a presentation for peers in grad school. For a fun project unrelated to my thesis. Would never have used my personal for a work related presentation. Just a funny story nonetheless. Getting mad shit from buddies beats being fired or passed for promotion anyday lmao
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Idk what specific image was shown. But anything described as “anime girl” could have strong csam vibes assuming this grad school student is older than 11 themselves.
For some reason its normalized in some parts of the Linux community to have sexualized images of children.
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Sounds like a hell of your own making. Always change the background to something generic. Like a nice tree. Always. Nobody gives a shit about trees.
You could set certain ports to automatically mirror or set all other monitors to automatically mirror. The resolution will be the same as your primary though.
monitor=,preferred,auto,1,mirror,DP-1``` [hyprland wiki - monitors #extra args](https://wiki.hyprland.org/Configuring/Monitors/#extra-args)
This has long been the best advice. However, just in case you are not aware, some pretty important NVIDIA changes are expected to drop in the next 2 months. It will take a while to work into every distribution but NVIDIA should finally work as well as AMD.
Yes I know. I have read all about explicit sync. It’s going to take at least a few months to trickle into the various packages and distributions and we’re still trusting NVidia to give us a proper driver with it as well. And we’re assuming there’s nothing else that will cause yet more problems with Wayland/etc.
I’m at my wits end trying to be patient with them (on the order of years). I now understand why Linus flipped them off with a loud “F you”.
Not disagreeing
How’s the AMD drivers situation on Linux? I always used Nvidia since they have official drivers, but might change for the next card if AMD works better. I don’t use Wayland so never ran into the issues.
If your AMD card is older than your latest linux distro release it’s plug and play, no driver installation required
Wayland works pretty well on most desktop environments toobeware fresh released AMD cards in combination with long term release distros like Debian stable, you most likely will need the driver from the AMD website (not recommended)
Mesa is usually pretty quick to update, it’s just that stable distros won’t update mesa all that quickly. I assume most of them have some way to install a newer mesa from a community repo or something.
For me, the plasma 6 implementation misses nothing. Multiple monitors work with no issues, and every program I could run works with no issues.
My main problem is that none of the tiling wayland compositors ( hyprland for example ) work well with multiple monitors. My usecase is to keepcmy laptop’s monitor in clamshell mode and just use the external one, but I tend to if I leave for a long time to turn off the monitor since plasma can’t turn it off the output for powersaving by itself for weird reasons and plasma 6 kwin will corectly start up on the monitor if I turn it on.
Compositors like hyprland for soke reason won’t and will ontly show blank screen and not even allow me to change to another tty, effectively freezing my system.
But I got used to the way plasma works, made it work similary to a tiling wm for the virtual desktops and placing speficifc windows in specific virtual desktop and stuff like that, so I get the benefits of a good stacking (floating) wayland compositor with robust virtual desktops support.
Weird, I’ve been using hyprland on multi monitor for a while
Only issue I’ve ever noticed is that some games will insist on running on my second monitor for some reason and will stay locked at at 1080p when moved to the higher res one
My problem is I only use external minitor and turn off laptop monitor, so when I also turn off the external monitor and then turn it back on hyprlamd just has a stroke.
I’m not sure as to how long ago you did this but it moves workspaces dynamically now when you unplug/replug monitors
I used to do this quite frequently, disabling laptop screen when plugged into monitors
That said it still has a stroke from time to time just not always
Something close to last week or week before.
Ah right, probably not a new thing then
Switching monitor setups has seemed pretty unstable in hyprland to me but I assumed that was more to do with Nvidia than anything
Mind trying out WinTile and lettinge me know if it works?
Sure, will test out today or tomorrow.
My ground for it working with hyprland but it required some hacking. I could ask him what he did if you really want hypr.
Personally I use gnome and plasma and both work great with everything. Discord has some jank but works… Barely
missing a mountain of accessibility tools
Like?
If there is something missing, add it either as an issue or a PR in the project.
https://github.com/mpsq/arewewaylandyet
It would help your case when saying that it’s not ready. It might also inspire people to fix it if they see something that is missing.
I’m using it on Plasma 6 with AMD graphics and so far it’s going good. When I had Nvidia I had issues with electron based applications. Games have been running pretty good regardless of the GPU, though Forza horizon 5 wouldn’t launch under Nvidia for some reason.
Did you have electron/chrome applications flicker? I’ve been dealing with that since switching to Nvidia (I didn’t want to but Plex only supports GPU encoding on Linux with Nvidia).
Yes, that was the exact issue.
What distro out of curiosity been running a 3070 on nixos with hyprland/plasma6 and haven’t had any issues
Same problem, 1070, NixOS Plasma
Arch with Plasma
Huh interesting I booted arch up to test and I’m not getting it there either I wonder if I got a miracle GPU or the only other thing is I use the linux zen kernel
Will probably be fixed with driver 555 next month (explicit sync support).
Yup, I’m cautiously optimistically waiting for it haha.
I still can’t stream screens via discord and my autoclicker relies on a lib that only works with X
Discord would work if they ever updated their electron version.
Or just use it in a web browser. I don’t really want to run their proprietary spyware outside of a sandbox anyways.
It works fine with Firefox funnily enough
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Or Vesktop, which is a client mod that allows streaming (even with audio)
The problem is it’s completely unwatchable. Streams are 2 fps no matter how low or high quality you set the stream :c
I’ve been using it for my daily driver for work and casual gaming with no issues for 4 months now (Garuda Linux)
is Debian shipping with it default yet?
while Debian is still deciding if they ship with Wayland by default or not, Fedora and KDE are planning to already completely drop x11 for their next release (they ship Wayland by default)
Fedora 40 with kde plasma 6 dropped a day or two ago, and they did remove x11, you have to get it from the repo in case you want it, otherwise, it only comes and is planned for wayland, which I believe is great, for once it does seem like the year of wayland
For Fedora I’m not surprised, but KDE is considering dropping X11 support already?
Yes, because Plasma 6 is so flawless on Wayland. /s
Fedora should drop every other DE except KDE. That would really free up some resources.
It would also uncheck a lot of accessibility requirements that RHEL in particular needs.
I was kidding about Fedora but Red Hat can actually afford to do that. They’re not a generalist distro, they can and should offer their customers a very specific desktop stack.
Part of the reason red hat uses gnome is because it is the only desktop that meets many accessibility requirements. It would be a huge engineering effort to bring any other desktop up to par in that regard. Most graphical Linux software is really far behind in accessibility.
It doesn’t have to be KDE. That was just the joke for Fedora.
Unlike Fedora, Red Hat can actually afford to use a single DE and a very specific graphics stack and to get rid of X completely. They don’t have to support the full breadth and legacy of Linux desktop apps. For Red Hat machines the desktop is just a means to an end – it facilitates access to certain GUI tools.
I’m still struggling with remote desktop software and other alternatives such as sunshine. KDE connect input sharing is inconsistent on wayland, but they will probably fix that eventually. xwaylandvideobridge is great when it works, but currently has an issue with eating input invisibly. Also, some things just seem to be kinda wonky. For example screen sharing portal when sharing my screen in a browser seems to open twice. Same with obs. Still no good virtual keyboard. If onboard worked on wayland that would be perfect.
Still no good virtual keyboard. If onboard worked on wayland that would be perfect.
Not perfect integration but with a workaround Onboard is somewhat usable.
On my Steam Deck I’m mostly using Steam’s keyboard with Maliit for logins and the lock screen and Onboard in case I need special keys.
Yes the duplicate portals are a mess. On Signal desktop there are 4 portal requests and they all say something different.
We have moonligh/sunshinefor that
What I want is remote windows
And I want them on wayland, on X, on my android phone, in the meta quest 3, in my browser and on windows (native, not wsl)
I just want my steam link to work on KDE Wayland.
I just get a black screen with a mouse that I can’t move with a connected steam controller
XFCE doesn’t support it yet so I’m not on it.
Also last I tried, autoclickers weren’t working
Lol XFCE. If your reference is a bunch of software thats sole purpose is to be “traditional”, stable and not change, then well.
Btw LXQt will have complete Wayland support soon.
For anybody else following along, XFCE is working on Wayland support. In fact, the only component not already supporting Wayland in Git is XFWM4 itself. Wayland will ship officially as part of the 4.20 release.
They are creating an abstraction library that will allow XFCE to support both X and Wayland. Other desktop environments are going to use it as well.
Very interesting!
Cinnamon doesn’t support it yet either, so I’m also not on it :(
wayland doesn’t support diagonal monitors
A program that I use often uses an embedded MPV window for video playing, and Wayland doesn’t support that, and apparently won’t: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/issues/74
So until something changes with that program, MPV, or Wayland, or I decide to rewrite the program myself, I’m stuck with X11.
