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Decent article but senseless headline. Nobody ever positioned mandatory service as a method to make Canadians love their country…
Probably not nobody, but that shouldn’t be the main point. We don’t want to be defenceless anymore.
That being said, I don’t look forward to being drafted into such a shitty military culture.
Maybe if the mandatory service were installing fiber to rural areas the way we managed to get copper out there or dealing with infrastructure (especially water and schools) in Indigenous and remote communities. Maybe health care or emergency response.
But guns and bombs? No thanks.
Also, I’m old enough to be exempt by any rational measure. If it came to a vote, my vote shouldn’t be counted.
Or building socialized housing 🏘️🛠️
Yes, that too!
I’m glad I’m starting to get to be old enough to be exempt for any mandatory national service but damn if that wouldn’t make this country worse overall.
I agree. I’m also not a huge fan of rebranding “military conscription” as “national service”. There have been people talking about “national service” in ways that specifically excluded military service. This feels like yet another case of the right stealing a term from the left and redefining it to suit themselves. It’s something they have been doing with national and religious symbols and slogans forever as a way to hide their true intentions.
One thing I find particularly concerning is that military conscription has generally been reserved for invasion or active defense. What are they not telling us?
Nobody is seriously talking about mandatory service in Canada are they? The draft and conscription have been political suicide in Canada for basically the country’s entire history as an independent nation. To my knowledge, the only countries where national service has any political traction are countries with a threatening neighbour right on their doorstep like Korea and Israel
1st world countries like Singapore and Norway have mandatory service too
The incumbent (Tory) party in the UK has included national service in their campaign leading up to next month’s
federal[edit: national] election.https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c988jdxl02vo
The proposed new scheme would not be conscription, where people are legally required to join the armed forces for a period. But it would compel people by law to complete a community programme over a 12-month period, or enrol in a year-long military training scheme, when they turn 18.
Yeah the article mentions that. And it mentions some conservative newspapers here are supporting the UK tories. But is anybody seriously talking about it for here?
I hope not, but conservative bad ideas do seem highly contagious.
Nobody is seriously talking about mandatory service in Canada are they?
The NatPo article that this article is responding to is the first time I’ve heard about it in recent years.
As an American this is depressing, Canada was always me mental escape hatch. “Well I’ll just move to Canada if shit gets to bad here”
Which I know is hella reductive and not nearly as simple as it sounds, but who needs logic
Outside of gun control and health care, Canada is USA minus a few years. The same stupid cultural shit happens here too just a bit later
Moved from the USA over 25 years ago. Never moving back, though I visit. I sum it up like this: “Canada: better than the States—and no better than that.”
We sadly keep using the wrong yardstick. Or metre. I do like that we have metric.
Especially in Alberta
How about we just tax the hell out of the rich people and billionaires in the country and use their money to pay for all our problems?
Then we can talk about national service after if that doesn’t work
Could take back the 18B of tax credits, interest free loans and grants given to the oil and gas sector last year?
Does the mandatory national service pay $30+/hour, with raises if you stay voluntarily after the mandatory period is finished? That might do it.
Yeah, that was my first thought. If it was a guaranteed well-paying career like it used to be maybe it would change the mood in here. Otherwise, no, it’s just a way to have a less pathetic military.
I thought it was the UK Conservative party suggesting that, it’s happening at the same time in Canada too?
This is the first I’ve heard of it, but apparently Canada’s Conservatives are interested. Conservatives always seem to have an ear out for the worst ideas from each other.
According to the article it’s the UK but Nat Post has jumped on it
Canadian government just wants mindless drones. They care about the general population as a resource.
If they cared, they wouldn’t have let things get like this, and they would actively be pursuing ways to make things better.
Edit: I should add voting reform would have been massive if the liberals followed through with that. As it stands now from my personal perspective, it’s the wealthy and powerful vs the general population.
We’re going to reform the voting process! Wait, we won? Never mind the process works great!
What, you mean people wouldn’t want to potentially for for a country that abandoned them before service and had a history of doing so after?
Who said anything about love? The government just wants them to shut up and obey orders.
“Mandatory national service”. Sure, and I’m certain that the same Conservative governments that famously underfund everything in the military will surely fund this adequately.
After all, nothing’s going to make you love your country like being conscripted and having to take a year off when you’re on the verge of incurring massive amounts of debt, with no chance of owning a home and no employment prospects. Does this “Mandatory national service” include paying conscripts? Because I’ll bet it doesn’t.
Tell you what, let’s conscript the Boomers. After all, they’ve already made out like bandits, have a fuck-on of equity and significantly less debt and a ton of time on their hands. Hell, it’d even free up jobs that Boomers are clinging to like fucking limpets to a rock. Let’s see how much they “Love Canada” then when they have to take an unpaid year off for it.
more free market will solve this.