I am observing a very similar sentiment to Sinophobia, now regarding Russia. Reddit’s audience is primarily 80% USA + West EU, and the rest 20% also includes a lot of East Europe and other countries, leaving for 5-10% anti-hatred people. On the other hand, Western world makes up for a mere 12% of the world’s population.
This speaks volumes about how majoritarianism is flipped on the internet by Western world to suit their narratives and loudmouth whatever they want dominating in virtual space. And since moderators are also from said Western countries, the biases are completely intentional and systematic.
For all the “human rights” and “no censorship” nonsense these Western countries spout with the assumption of having high horse on moral grounds, they lie a lot systematically.
Just an observation.
- david ( @david@feddit.uk ) 9•9 months ago
I wonder what could possibly be making Russia unpopular right now?
- southerntofu ( @southerntofu@lemmy.ml ) 6•2 years ago
Yes there is a lot of russophobia and sinophobia on the part of conservative elements of society (remnants of anti-bolshevik propaganda), but there is also legitimate concerns against imperialist behavior on all sides. A lot of people you see criticizing Putin for invading territories are the same people you saw criticizing France invading Mali or USA invading Iraq/Afghanistan. A lot of the people here in France concerned with russian invasion of Ukraine are the same people who were very much against France joining NATO.
Not all of us are media-driven puppet who have to choose a side between equally-evil sides. I personally side with the people/communities who struggle against imperialism, whether it’s zapatistas in Chiapas, various communities in Rojava, popular movements in Hong Kong, independentists in various french colonies (Guadeloupe, Kanaky, Bretagne), or the people of Ukraine who are facing military invasion at the hand of their former colonizer.
Of course we need to keep a critical look at western propaganda in this matter, and how separatists in certain parts of Ukraine are treated, but that does not mean we should support another colonial empire in this geopolitical game of sociopaths, and it certainly doesn’t mean that people disgusted by military invasion saying “fuck putin” on internet forums are puppets of NATO interests.
Though it’s fair to point out that the global empathy toward ukrainian people is both media-manufactured and based on ethnocentric principles of “white people are affected” and “it’s a European country being invaded, not some African/Asian country”. But in order to deconstruct these racist narratives and revive the internationalist movement, it’s not a good start to support a dictatorial regime who’s rebuilding the former Russian empire, is increasingly reinforcing the cis-heteropatriarchal dogma hand-in-hand with the orthodox fundamentalists, and has zero insightful criticism in regards to its own history of genocide and political repression (against muslim populations of the USSR, against anarchists in Russia/Ukraine, etc).
- beansniffer ( @beansniffer@lemmy.ml ) 3•2 years ago
leaving for 5-10% anti-hatred people
Does someone being from the USA or Europe automatically make them anti-Russia? Does someone not being from USA or Europe automatically make them pro-Russia?
Isn’t assuming either of these things prejudiced (and dare I say perhaps even racist) against both Americans and Europeans?
English Fascism has been here for a while now. The other thread was quite revealing on c/memes.
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- krolden ( @krolden@lemmy.ml ) -1•2 years ago
Stop complaining about getting downvotes it makes your argument look weaker.
- Cyclohexane ( @cyclohexane@lemmy.ml ) 0•2 years ago
It’s not 100%, but yes, the countries that colonized the entire world and created the idea of race to begin with are very much the racist ones. How is that surprising?
- nachtigall ( @nachtigall@feddit.de ) 3•2 years ago
What kind of russophobia do you observe? Almost every post that makes it to r/all (which is pretty much the only thing I visit) has a top comment that underlines this is about Putin and not the Russian people.
It is not about Putin. It is about Russia, and the only reason you see “f*** Putin” instead of “f*** Russia” (like "“f*** China”) is because Russians are Caucasian like and white skinned, and not yellow/brown/black skinned. It is English Fascism at play.
Why do you think you do not see anything talking about the Aegis missile system of 30 NATO countries surrounding Russia at the moment? Why do the 2-5% people having arguments that favour Russia get silenced or called Russian bot?
- nachtigall ( @nachtigall@feddit.de ) 5•2 years ago
It is not about Putin. It is about Russia, and the only reason you see “f*** Putin” instead of “f*** Russia” (like "“f*** China”) is because Russians are Caucasian like and white skinned, and not yellow/brown/black skinned. It is English Fascism at play.
I don’t even know what to say about this. You have an incredibly hateful and racist worldview.
Why do you think you do not see anything talking about the Aegis missile system of 30 NATO countries surrounding Russia at the moment?
I am pretty sure that is because of the ongoing Russian attack on Ukraine. All of this proves the necessity for protection. The invasion delivered the best possible justification for NATO’s existence.
Why do the 2-5% people having arguments that favour Russia get silenced or called Russian bot?
Same as above. There is no justificaton for war.
- gun ( @gun@lemmy.ml ) 1•2 years ago
No it’s just a realist view. Great man theory was completely discredited by modern political economy. Read a book.
- sexy_peach ( @sexy_peach@feddit.de ) 1•2 years ago
What is the connection to great man theory here?
- nachtigall ( @nachtigall@feddit.de ) 1•2 years ago
Would you mind elaborating further? I don’t get your point.
- gun ( @gun@lemmy.ml ) 0•2 years ago
“It’s not about Putin, it’s about Russia” is a true statement. History is not decided by great men. History is decided by the class struggle and material conditions. And right now, Russia is in a popular front just like China was in WW2. Why? Because the west wants to open up Russia’s economy to foreign interests. They want to privatize Russia’s state oil and gas firms and expropriate the profits. The same thing they have done for the resources of countries all over the world. Proof? You can see it in public. Leaders and pundits in NATO are already floating around the idea of regime change in Russia. They are going to try to start a coup and put in a US friendly leader in Russia.
@sexy_peach@feddit.de since you were asking too
- david ( @david@feddit.uk ) 2•9 months ago
This already happened. The oligarchs own the means of production, and spend their profits in the West to live lives of luxury. Russia hasn’t been communist for decades, and putin’s friends are the capitalist owners extracting the results of the work of the people for their own private benefit. Where have you been?
- morrowind ( @morrowind@lemmy.ml ) 2•2 years ago
It is not about Putin. It is about Russia, and the only reason you see “f*** Putin” instead of “f*** Russia” (like "“f*** China”) is because Russians are Caucasian like and white skinned, and not yellow/brown/black skinned. It is English Fascism at play.
That’s a pretty big claim you’re making, with nothing to back it up.
And I don’t see what the Aegis missile system has to do with russia hate.
- a_Ha ( @a_Ha@lemmy.ml ) 0•2 years ago
censorship …
there will be a lot more in the future, not only on reddit but also vk & +
- Cyclohexane ( @cyclohexane@lemmy.ml ) 0•2 years ago
Reddit is incredibly racist. I have noticed as an Arab that Arab hate on Reddit is rampant, but I’ve also noticed Russian and Chinese hate to be really bad.
Sadly, while it is a little better here, it’s not that much better.
- DerPapa69 ( @DerPapa69@lemmy.ml ) 0•2 years ago
It’s not just Reddit, methinks. I’ve seen a fair share of russophobia on here too, to be honest. Cold war propaganda still hard at work…
Yes, the 4 downvotes carefully balancing this post out of feed shows. Cold War and McCarthyism is at work, my post on r/Firefox also got censored regarding this matter. This whole crap is English Fascism.
- wintermute ( @wintermute@feddit.de ) 1•2 years ago
I haven’t read a more absurd relativization of fascism for a long time
You want to read more absurdity? Have fun.
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- krolden ( @krolden@lemmy.ml ) 2•2 years ago
Dude you’re cringe af stop posting offtopic anywhere.
Projection.
- keegomatic ( @keegomatic@lemmy.ml ) 2•2 years ago
How did that post have anything to do with Firefox? Of course it was removed. It’s completely off-topic.
Then you should know about these 2 posts from before.
https://teddit.net/r/firefox/comments/t1op68/what_about_firefox_and_yandex/
https://teddit.net/r/firefox/comments/t15p9q/firefox_should_shut_down_rt_media_addons/
Edit: lol 3 minutes in and ignorant people having finger ready to downvote
- krolden ( @krolden@lemmy.ml ) 1•2 years ago
The comments in there seem pretty based. No need for your completely off topic post in a Firefox sub.
Again, every time you complain about downvotes I am downvoting you, along with many others I assume.
- gun ( @gun@lemmy.ml ) 0•2 years ago
“It’s off topic unless I think it’s based. Then it’s not off topic”
- wintermute ( @wintermute@feddit.de ) 1•2 years ago
you don’t need to entertain me on purpose ; )
- wintermute ( @wintermute@feddit.de ) 1•2 years ago
you don’t need to entertain me on purpose.
You are the same kind of person that looked like fools later, after falling for emotional psyops crap like the Nayirah testimony on Iraq. You deserve it. Please seek more ignorance and entertainment, and never think critically. You are either in agreement with Anglo narrative, or you are a terrorist.
- wintermute ( @wintermute@feddit.de ) 2•2 years ago
Who are you to judge me, I can’t take you seriously
- southerntofu ( @southerntofu@lemmy.ml ) 2•2 years ago
If anything, i’ve found on lemmy a lot of pro-Putin propaganda and that’s bothered me for a while, especially when it comes from people who pretend to be leftists. First, because if you’re a leftist then you can’t be supportive of the Nation State according to marxist-leninist dogma (“leftist” was a term used by Lenin to designate anarchists and radicals). Second because under the most positive interpretations of USSR history (as a “people’s republic”), Putin falls short of any communist principle (he’s with the oligarchs, right?). Third, because under the most negative interpretations of USSR history (as a genocidal State-capitalist continuation of the Russian Empire) Putin is just reviving the Russian empire/autocracy.
Russian propaganda says Ukrainian people/government is nazi, and there is certainly some truth to that as most of Europe has been widely influenced by the nazi regime. But Putin’s regime is also uncomfortably close to nazism, with his christian/white-supremacist apology, his youth reeducation camps for punk/misbehaved kids, his political repression and secret service torture of dissidents, his strong anti-muslim propaganda…
NOTE: I’m not here to say France or the USA is much better. There is a lot broken and wrong here and i’ll jump on any occasion to point it out. But saying that denouncing a military invasion from a tyrannical government is “russophobia” is completely disconnected from political reality of anti-imperialist struggles. This narrative is very similar to that pushed by Israel government when they say everyone who criticizes Israel is an antisemite.