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- Durotar ( @Durotar@lemmy.ml ) 168•1 year ago
His plane has crashed and he’s on the passenger list, but it’s not proven yet that he was on the plane. He’s the person, who faked his death in the past.
- masterspace ( @masterspace@lemmy.ca ) English44•1 year ago
It seems like oddly coincidental timing that Russia also officially relieved Surovikin as head of the airforce today (he still hasn’t been seen since the mutiny): https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/23/russia-removes-sergei-surovikin-as-head-of-aerospace-forces
Not saying he’s definitely dead, but I doubt this is him faking his own death so much as him slipping an assassination attempt if he’s alive.
- Gork ( @Gork@lemm.ee ) 21•1 year ago
Ah yes. The general who the Kremlin said was “resting.” Nothing ominous about that.
- awwwyissss ( @awwwyissss@lemm.ee ) 7•1 year ago
Agreed, coordinated take down of Prigozhin and his allies.
- Smite6645 ( @Smite6645@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 100•1 year ago
Impressive Russia was able to push an entire plane out of a high rise window.
- EffortlessEffluvium ( @EffortlessEffluvium@lemm.ee ) 10•1 year ago
It was Novichok-ing the tires…
- bermuda ( @bermuda@beehaw.org ) English4•1 year ago
they put polonium-210 in the engines
- M0oP0o ( @M0oP0o@mander.xyz ) 60•1 year ago
Wait, am I reading this right that the plane was shot down by russian air defence? If this is backed up at all by anything like a russian source, then this will just further enforce option that russia can not be trusted to do anything it says and that putin is weak and threatened (both are true but I thought the kremlin would at least try to say/show otherwise).
How does russia keep messing up this bad? I am constantly shocked and awed.
- Hyperreality ( @Hyperreality@kbin.social ) 15•1 year ago
If this is backed up at all by anything like a russian source
The Guardian is reporting this:
The cause of the crash was not immediately clear, but Prigozhin’s longstanding feud with the military and the armed uprising he led in June would give ample motive to the Russian state for revenge. Media channels linked to Wagner quickly suggested that a Russian air defence missile had shot down the plane.
- M0oP0o ( @M0oP0o@mander.xyz ) 8•1 year ago
Yes, I am hoping we get more info from anyone else then Wagner group soon.
- SomeGuyNamedPaul ( @SomeGuyNamedPaul@beehaw.org ) English3•1 year ago
https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1694397010680361239?s=20
Wings generally don’t just fall off without some kind of help.
- Emu ( @Emu@lemmy.ml ) 50•1 year ago
I’m loving all the tankie tears in here. They don’t know who to support. LOL. I love how ruZZia is slowly eating its own tail and destroying itself, just typical of a fascist state. Slava Ukraini! Slava NATO!
- socsa ( @socsa@lemmy.ml ) 5•1 year ago
I just think it’s amusing how easily they out themselves as kneejerk anti-west reactionaries with support of Russia, which is a country even more opposed to their alleged ideals.
- EphemeralSun ( @EphemeralSun@lemm.ee ) 46•1 year ago
I’ve never seen tankies and libs ever so united in celebration.
- boredtortoise ( @boredtortoise@lemm.ee ) 10•1 year ago
We from neither are also pretty whelmed by this turn of events
- eyy ( @eyy@lemm.ee ) 35•1 year ago
What a disappointing guy. The least he could have done was take out Putin before he died.
- arc ( @arc@lemm.ee ) 34•1 year ago
I’m fully expecting Russian media to explain how those evil Ukranians sneaked a missile battery or a fighter jet into Moscow airspace and shot down a plane that just happened to contained Putin’s mortal enemies.
- pH3ra ( @pH3ra@lemmy.ml ) 33•1 year ago
- kiwwimix ( @kiwwimix@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year ago
Best reply ever
- Olympus ( @Olympus@feddit.uk ) 31•1 year ago
I am shocked I tell you. Who could have predicted such an accident
- TransplantedSconie ( @TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee ) 31•1 year ago
“Plane crash” lol
They literally blew his nazi loving ass out of the sky.
- Pantrygheist ( @Pantrygheist@programming.dev ) 18•1 year ago
Well the plane did crash against the missiles sent towards it.
- Echo71Niner ( @Echo71Niner@lemm.ee ) 30•1 year ago
Never discount that a deal was reached and this was their way or his way of going in retirement with a new identity - faked death.
- BigNote ( @BigNote@lemm.ee ) 4•1 year ago
The simplest explanation is usually the right one though.
- AdamHenry ( @AdamHenry@discuss.tchncs.de ) 1•1 year ago
What about the others on the plane, crisis actors?
- Echo71Niner ( @Echo71Niner@lemm.ee ) 4•1 year ago
collateral damage.
- bigkahuna1986 ( @bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml ) 25•1 year ago
Seems like Putin may have held a grudge after all.
- HuddaBudda ( @HuddaBudda@kbin.social ) 19•1 year ago
Only thing I am seeing on this is that two of Wagner’s private jets were in the air, and one crashed over St. Petersburg while taking off from Moscow.
The other jet that belongs to him turned around and landed in Moscow airport after losing contact with the first. Which is pretty strange.
It is assumed that The leader Prigozhin and his 2nd in command were supposedly on board. As Russia state media is claiming they are dead.
However, Russia State Media has been lying quite a bit though this war, so it has to be taken with a grain of salt.
As of now
710 bodies have been found.However, just day’s earlier, Prigozhin was seen in Africa as if “announcing their services” to a developing situation. So why did he suddenly end up in Moscow? The one place he knows he isn’t safe?!
Edit:
2:24pm
Wagner’s media is also claiming they both died.- OldWoodFrame ( @OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee ) 7•1 year ago
He has been flying around Russia quite a bit since the coup, clearly he thought he was safe.
- lntl ( @lntl@lemmy.ml ) 15•1 year ago
- Kimmel ( @Kimmel@feddit.de ) 15•1 year ago
I won’t shed a tear for Prigozhin and his gang but I haven’t heard a single person speak about the uninvolved crew members of the plane who also got killed with this… poor souls
- Emu ( @Emu@lemmy.ml ) 15•1 year ago
Who cares? They were his own private planes. These people knew who they were transporting and getting paid for it while Ukraine burns. They are part of his war crimes as well.
- ButterBiscuits ( @ButterBiscuits@beehaw.org ) 5•1 year ago
Right? Fucking tankies crying tears into an ocean here.
- vlad ( @vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org ) 9•1 year ago
I share your sentiment. But that’s too complex of an emotion to have on the internet.