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cross-posted from: https://radiation.party/post/37990
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ericjmorey ( @ericjmorey@beehaw.org ) English50•3 months agoAny opinions on the culture that has developed since yesterday is premature at best.
On the technical side they had over
130 million accounts register in 24 hours. Thesiteservice didn’t crash. That’s impressive.I’m assuming that it will never federate with activity pub, I hope I’m correct.
thingsiplay ( @thingsiplay@beehaw.org ) English20•3 months agoA few weeks ago, I read that Threads will not only not federate, also make it able to import users from Mastodon and other platforms based on Activity Pub. But it won’t be possible the other way. So basically taking without giving. Not sure if that is still a thing, got it somewhere in Mastodon… So if anyone have a source for that, please reply with a link.
ericjmorey ( @ericjmorey@beehaw.org ) English21•3 months agoIt seems like they reached out to the largest Mastodon instance admins and got a cold reception, so they didn’t bother to incorporate activity pub into the initial release. Now that they have more registered accounts in 24 hours than all of Mastodon instances combined, I don’t think they’ll care.
liminis ( @liminis@beehaw.org ) English2•3 months agoSigning up is just having an instagram account and opting to check it out, so I’m not sure the numbers are very meaningful yet.
Hangry ( @kurogane@lm.helilot.com ) English2•3 months agoWasn’t it 10 millions in the span of 7 hours?
ericjmorey ( @ericjmorey@beehaw.org ) English3•3 months agoYeah. They got over 30 million in the first 24 hours
trashhalo ( @trashhalo@beehaw.org ) English46•3 months agoThat thumbnail will haunt my dreams
DolphinLundgrin ( @DolphinLundgrin@aussie.zone ) English15•3 months agoIts been years since I dreamt. Now it’ll be even longer because I’ll never sleep again.
CmdrShepard ( @CmdrShepard@lemmy.one ) English1•3 months agoIsn’t that a screenshot from Fire in the Sky?
cosmic_slate ( @cosmic_slate@dmv.social ) English19•3 months agoIt’s… maybe 24 hours after it launched? I think it’s incredibly early to come to any conclusions about the content on Threads.
Plume 🪶 ( @Plume@beehaw.org ) English14•3 months agoSo, it’s basically a Twitter version of LinkedIn. Thanks, I hate it.
ozoned ( @ozoned@beehaw.org ) English10•3 months agoThe Jake Paul giving away $5,000 to someone that boosts his message is just disgusting. Those people see a CELEBRITY just oh so generously giving away money! YAY! I see someone in a position of power saying “DANCE MONKIES” for what’s peanuts to him and helps his celebrity even more and that’s fucking disgusting.
thingsiplay ( @thingsiplay@beehaw.org ) English9•3 months agoThe only positive I can see coming from “Threads” is, that people are aware of Twitter alternatives and probably learn about Mastodon too. But most people on Facebook and Instagram don’t care that is the company Facebook behind it. Therefore they would not care about Mastodon either. Or any other alternative similar to it, as there are not millions of people.
As for Threads, I think it will stay relevant. Will it take over Twitter? Maybe, probably not. They do not federate with Activity Pub, therefore it is not relevant to me. “Just” another service I don’t care, similar to Tik Tok. And to be honest here, I would like them to federate.
ericjmorey ( @ericjmorey@beehaw.org ) English17•3 months agoYou had me until the last sentence.
thingsiplay ( @thingsiplay@beehaw.org ) English5•3 months agoWhy? I mean by federating to both sides equally. That’s the point of Activity Pub, isn’t it? Instances can still block them if they wish to.
The_Terrible_Humbaba ( @The_Terrible_Humbaba@beehaw.org ) English3•3 months agoCopy pasted from my other comment:
There’s been lots of discussions about this already, but the short version is that this is a play book tactic used by big companies to take over a sector.
I didn’t experience this at the time, so the details might be off, but one example, as I understand it, is what Google did with Google Messages a decade ago or so. They federated using some other service that existed before Activity Pub I think, and most casual users just flocked to it with no idea about any federation. Once it got big, they just stopped federating, and anyone who was not on Google Messages but had friends who were (which most did since GM was so popular) had to change to GM.
Other similar such things have happened before with other products and in other markets, and that’s what people fear will happen with threads.
ericjmorey ( @ericjmorey@beehaw.org ) English3•3 months agoBecause it will create more problems than I want to deal with.
thingsiplay ( @thingsiplay@beehaw.org ) English4•3 months agoI don’t understand. What problems do you mean? It is “just” another Activity Pub after all, if it is federating in and out, like any other Activity Pub federated community.
ericjmorey ( @ericjmorey@beehaw.org ) English2•3 months agoThe first problem is that Beehaw can barely handle the load it has now, if you connect it to 100 million people and just one post or comment gains traction, Beehaw gets the experience of an accidental DDoS attack.
There are many other technical and social issues that will be created. Some of which have easy solutions some of which may not have any solutions at all, none of which I want to deal with.
thingsiplay ( @thingsiplay@beehaw.org ) English1•3 months agoThen just defederate like they did with the other instances.
ericjmorey ( @ericjmorey@beehaw.org ) English2•3 months agoIt seems like you don’t want to understand.
cnqr ( @cnqr@beehaw.org ) English2•3 months agoPeople are going the reddit hivemind again in lemmy.
Just repeating in echo chambers without rationale.
If you look at my history, I’ve been trying to get some useful information regarding Threads, but have received much less useful comments than I would even receive on reddit.
Personally, I’d really like to access to Threads from my anonymous account on another instance, since Threads account is strictly tied to an Instagram account.
I guess it’s the nature of social media nowadays. Lots of noise, very little actual signal.
The_Terrible_Humbaba ( @The_Terrible_Humbaba@beehaw.org ) English4•3 months agoThere’s been lots of discussions about this already, but the short version is that this is a play book tactic used by big companies to take over a sector.
I didn’t experience this at the time, so the details might be off, but one example, as I understand it, is what Google did with Google Messages a decade ago or so. They federated using some other service that existed before Activity Pub I think, and most casual users just flocked to it with no idea about any federation. Once it got big, they just stopped federating, and anyone who was not on Google Messages but had friends who were (which most did since GM was so popular) had to change to GM.
Other similar such things have happened before with other products and in other markets, and that’s what people fear will happen with threads.
cnqr ( @cnqr@beehaw.org ) English1•3 months agoExcept reddit or lemmy doesn’t have a big concept of persistent friends or connections.
Why would you care where some random moves to? I don’t know anyone here and no one knows me. That’s the beauty of it. That’s why it’s different than other platforms and past occurrences.
hastati ( @hastati@beehaw.org ) English2•3 months agoNot OP, but I don’t want anything associated with Meta, Twitter, Reddit or any other social media monolith involved in the Fediverse. It feels like inviting a mafia boss to dinner and someone saying “Hey! He’s just here for dinner!”
marco ( @marco@beehaw.org ) English2•3 months agoYeah, but blocking them is a built in mechanism, so not really a major issue.
thingsiplay ( @thingsiplay@beehaw.org ) English1•3 months agoAnd why not? I ask this third time in row now. What problem do you expect? Can someone call me at least one problem? The Fediverse is for connecting people. If your instance don’t like the Meta instance, they can block it. It’s a different server and they only have power over their own server! That’s the whole point of Fediverse and Activity Pub! If Meta, Twitter and Reddit is playing with the rules, then I am for it! Everyone benefits.
HisNoodlyServant ( @HisNoodlyServant@beehaw.org ) English6•3 months agoThis article was so cringe. Don’t get me wrong not a fan of the Zuck but Theads seems pretty decent, just not my jam (but neither was Twitter). Seems way cleaner than Twitter and the structure is solid when I want to look at comments of a post.