• I think BC and QC have concetrated communities of anti-science individuals, which makes the ignorance seem more prevalent than it actually is. Then again, the number of people I know who recognize naturopathy is bullshit but then routinely see a chiropractor is WAY too high

      • Frankly as a doc myself, I’d sort of rather my patients see a naturopath if they have to choose one. I’m not a fan of either but at least I know the local naturopaths will provide a nice listening ear, while the chiropractors just seem to do everything they can to actively hurt people.

        • My regular doctor refused to engage with research-based approaches to long-term health that cure underlying disease. Referred me to a naturopath instead. I’m talking about a study supporting targeted anti- and probiotics as a possible cure for a chronic condition.

          Most doctors seem to busy to even consider preventative medicine.

          •  Erk   ( @Erk@cdda.social ) 
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            31 year ago

            Depending on the thing you’re discussing, it sounds like your doctor referred you to a person who they felt would be appropriate for the request you had, so in general I’d say that’s kind of a harsh summary. We can’t be trained in all the things at all the times.

            In the case of antibiotics and probiotics for chronic conditions in particular, there is - and I cannot understate this - an unbelievable amount of woo and misinformation around that topic. That isn’t to say your specific concern falls in there, but I can understand why some docs feel overwhelmed with it. We get flooded with an incredible amount of pseudoscience in that specific domain, and it takes a huge amount of work to sort through what’s real and what isn’t.

            • Yeah, that’s fair. My difficulty is feeling like chronic conditions are mostly ignored. In this particular case, I had a study that recommended a very specific course of action for my specific conditions, which didn’t seem particularly woo to my eyes.

              But yeah, every doctor should instead be 3 doctors, plus a dietician, pharmacist, and other health care providers. All working for holistic health of the patients.

              The fact that this isn’t happening isn’t the fault of the doctors, but a lack of societal care for health.

              •  Erk   ( @Erk@cdda.social ) 
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                21 year ago

                I’ll have to be vague to avoid too much specific info, but I have worked in both contexts where I have a full team at my disposal and where I’m just a lone doctor, and I agree wholeheartedly we need the team. Best if it’s under the same roof. It isn’t necessary for every patient but for the people who need it it makes a huge difference.

                If it helps, many provinces have been trying to push something like that for a long time, but there are an entire host of problems that go along with getting it rolling. BC’s interprofessional team systems are sort of that, but they’re weak.