I’m sure we all hate to see it.
- Banzai51 ( @Banzai51@midwest.social ) English42•8 months ago
Then let’s start liquidating assets.
- MisterD ( @MisterD@lemmy.ca ) 2•8 months ago
Let there be liquidate!
- shiveyarbles ( @shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ) 42•8 months ago
Lol everyone knows a Trump never pays their debts
- infinitevalence ( @infinitevalence@discuss.online ) English21•8 months ago
Why would a billionaire need a bond? Could he be lying about his wealth?
- Ava ( @Ava@beehaw.org ) 8•8 months ago
I mean, there are trivial reasons for this. If I own a $1.2m home and have $100,000 in the bank, I’m a millionaire who couldn’t post a $250,000 bond.
- infinitevalence ( @infinitevalence@discuss.online ) English1•8 months ago
Shhh im waiting to see if he answers because maybe then we will find out how “poor” he really is vs his lies about his wealth. Away with your facts and reasons!
- Eccitaze ( @Eccitaze@yiffit.net ) 15•8 months ago
Lmao, from an NPR article on the same topic:
They filed an affidavit from an insurance broker saying it is “not possible” to find a bond that big. The broker was an expert witness for Trump during the trial.
The trial judge already noted in his decision that this broker was a “close personal friend” of Trump’s and had a financial interest in the outcome. A decision could come from the appeals court later this week.
I’m sure the judge will give the broker’s opinion all the deference it’s due. /s
- LoamImprovement ( @LoamImprovement@beehaw.org ) 12•8 months ago
Sounds like somebody needs their ass behind bars, then.
- deegeese ( @deegeese@sopuli.xyz ) 27•8 months ago
We don’t do debtors prisons. They’ll start seizing and auctioning properties.
- 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍 ( @sxan@midwest.social ) 4•8 months ago
Bail is something you post to keep you out of jail you’re already going to, it’s not debtor’s prison. And we do it all the time; when people can’t post bail, they continue on to jail.
- meteorswarm ( @meteorswarm@beehaw.org ) 7•8 months ago
In this case the bond is because he’s appealing a civil judgement that’s been reached. This is different from a bail bond. He’s not at risk of jail over this unless he gets in contempt of court.
- Default_Defect ( @Default_Defect@midwest.social ) English4•8 months ago
unless he gets in contempt of court
Which should have happened several times over.
- Thorry84 ( @Thorry84@feddit.nl ) 4•8 months ago
But how does this work exactly?
Trump isn’t personally owner of any of his buildings? They are owned by the companies he has stock in. Plus the buildings aren’t worth as much as those companies claim (let alone in a forced auction situation), which is another set of legal trouble Trump is facing right now. But no doubt those buildings aren’t actually owned by the Trump organizations, but instead owned by banks like Deutsche Bank, because Trump used them for his fraude schemes (allegedly). Or would Trumps stock be converted into money somehow?
Anybody got any idea on how this works in detail?
- deegeese ( @deegeese@sopuli.xyz ) 14•8 months ago
The Trump org owns buildings, and the Trump org is liable for the judgment.
Basically they’re going to seize and auction a bunch of buildings with his name on them, and when their auction values come up short, seize some more. Then when they run out, Trump org declares bankruptcy for the 4th time.
- Thorry84 ( @Thorry84@feddit.nl ) 4•8 months ago
Wasn’t Trump the individual named as being liable as well as the Trump organizations?
- Gerudo ( @Gerudo@lemm.ee ) 10•8 months ago
- BurningRiver ( @BurningRiver@beehaw.org ) 9•8 months ago
Trump has been unable to get bond for $464 million judgment, his lawyers say
Now there’s a fucking surprise. What a fraud.
- LallyLuckFarm ( @LallyLuckFarm@beehaw.org ) 8•8 months ago
is not possible under the circumstances
presentedOf my client’s entire history dealing with others
- BurningRiver ( @BurningRiver@beehaw.org ) 7•8 months ago
I’ve actually been thinking about this. If the RNC ends up paying his legal bills, wouldn’t that qualify as income, that he has to pay taxes on?
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Former President Donald Trump has not been able to get a bond to secure the $464 million fraud judgment against him, his lawyers said in a court filing Monday.
Trump and his company need to post a bond for the full amount by next week in order to stop New York Attorney General Letitia James from being able to collect while he appeals.
Their efforts, including “countless hours negotiating with one of the largest insurance companies in the world,” have proven that “obtaining an appeal bond in the full amount” of the Judgment “is not possible under the circumstances presented,” the filing said.
"Defendants’ real estate holdings — including iconic properties like 40 Wall Street, Doral Miami, and Mar-a-Lago, — greatly exceed the amount of the judgment.
Such assets are impossible to secrete or dispose of surreptitiously, leaving the plaintiff effectively secured during the pendency of an appeal," the filing said.
Trump’s team also argued the $464 million penalty is “grossly disproportional” and cited the argument they made throughout the months-long trial that “there are no victims, as there were no damages and no financial losses.”
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