- cross-posted to:
- voidlinux@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- voidlinux@lemmy.ml
Cyclohexane ( @cyclohexane@lemmy.ml ) 6•1 year agoThe author would likely really enjoy gentoo. Imo it has all those benefits and a little more, plus its more popular.
d3Xt3r ( @d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz ) 6•1 year agoThis is quite interesting, especially that tool to check changes made to /etc. Might have to give Void a try now. But does anyone know what the update cadence is like? Is it bleeding-edge like Arch, where you get new kernels and Mesa etc not long after upstream updates?
Edit: Nevermind, looks like Void fails my freerdp test. Guess that seals the deal.
0x0 ( @0x0@social.rocketsfall.net ) 5•1 year agoFreerdp test? I’m curious.
d3Xt3r ( @d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz ) 9•1 year agoIt’s just a check on the version number. As per my previous link, Void’s FreeRDP is still stuck on 2.x, whereas 3.x stable came out last December, with the latest stable being v3.4.0, released 3 weeks ago.
Nix also fails this test btw, since they too are still stuck on 2.x - and this is an example I’ve been using often as an argument against Nix fanbois who tend to claim that Nixpkgs is equivalent or even superior to the AUR, when in reality that’s not the case.
The reason why I’m so interested in 3.x is because it’s a major upgrade with a ton of QoL improvements. Any serious RDP user will want to switch to FreeRDP 3.x, especially if they’re a Wayland user / game over RDP /use RemoteApps (eg WinApps) etc. So I check the FreeRDP version of a distro as an indicator whether that distro is worth my time or not, hence why I call it the “freerdp test”. 3.x is also consider stable release btw, so there’s really no excuse for a distro not to package it and at least make it available - perhaps with a new name so as to not force an upgrade, if they’re concerned about compatibility issues.
Laser ( @Laser@feddit.de ) 4•1 year agonixpkgs is holding out with it because it’s part of the current GNOME 46 draft pull request: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/282102
Though I agree it’d have made more sense to migrate to freerdp 3 earlier and have two versions available, like with pipewire.
There’s also a nix file in that discussion with a more recent version.
0x0 ( @0x0@social.rocketsfall.net ) 3•1 year agoVery interesting. Thanks for the detailed explanation! I’ll check it out.
Edit: Nevermind, looks like Void fails my freerdp test. Guess that seals the deal.
What is the failed test about ?
flying_sheep ( @flying_sheep@lemmy.ml ) 6•1 year agoServices are bash scripts?
Oh no. That’s horrifying. I’ll never go back to the bad old days where my system constantly has dozens of untestable buggy bash scripts running.
I currently have zero bash scripts running on my system until I open steam, and there’s no world where I’d go back.
/bin/sh is not /bin/bash
flying_sheep ( @flying_sheep@lemmy.ml ) 5•1 year agoPOSIX shells are horrible unmaintainable bug factories.
shellcheck is not enough to make them safe programming languages. They are acceptable only in an interactive context.
Having anything encourage people to write POSIXy shell scripts is a design flaw.
Continue your ranting on some OpenBSD (uses /bin/ksh in init scripts) mailing list ?
flying_sheep ( @flying_sheep@lemmy.ml ) 3•1 year agoI don’t think those are better or worse. My point isn’t about some ancient far too limiting standard, but about how easy it is to wreck everything by not knowing some obscure syntactical rule. My issue is about implicit conversion between strings and arrays, about silently swallowing errors and so on. And the only shell languages that I know aren’t idiotic are nushell and Powershell.
That KDE theme that nuked some user’s home directory? Used a bash script. That time the bumblebee graphics card switching utility deleted /var? Bash script. Any time some build system broke because of a space in a path: bash/ZSH/… script.
Why would anyone make an init system based on shell scripts these days?
The Doctor ( @drwho@beehaw.org ) English1•1 year agoYes, please. I’ve got plenty of popcorn for everybody.
The Doctor ( @drwho@beehaw.org ) English2•1 year agoOh, Internet - thank you for not disappointing me.