•  Zaktor   ( @Zaktor@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    5220 days ago

    Just getting together well-meaning people and talking things out is like the pinnacle of liberal ideology too. Don’t know why so many Democrats are tripping over their feet to paint the protests as bad and cheer on the cops. You have your perfect resolution right there!

    •  hedge   ( @hedge@beehaw.org ) OP
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      3920 days ago

      Because far too many US Dems are cowards who live in fear of the conservative news media who will claim, no matter what they do, that they are “soft on crime.”

      • Presidential candidate Trump claims to be tough on crime. But is that really true? Record incarceration rates, increased violence, increased crime statistics. President Biden is the toughest president on crime yet. Debt forgiveness, decriminalisation of drugs, police reforms, rehabilitative incarceration, mental health subsidies, affordable healthcare, and free housing make Biden America’s biggest enemy of crime. President Biden: say no to crime.

        Whitehouse should just run this ad and actually implement these policies. Start redefining what it means to be tough on crime. It’s not hard, it just takes actually disagreeing with reactionaries on premises. Unfortunately, Biden is trying his damndest to lose the election this year.

        •  Misty99   ( @Misty99@beehaw.org ) 
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          119 days ago

          it should be easy to paint politicians as pro crime when they oppose gun control, oppose limits on ammunition purchases, support arming criminals, psychologically disturbed, violent abusers, etc.

          • Problem is once the government has the power to disarm criminals, they can make revolution illegal, call revolutionaries criminals, and prevent the population from rising up against the oligarchy. The only two good things America did is kill Nazis, and kill monarchists. And it looks like the second amendment is going to protect their right to do both after Project 2025. In my country we have very strict gun control laws, which is why I own a bow for self defence and Nazi killing.

      •  Zaktor   ( @Zaktor@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        920 days ago

        The media isn’t making up Biden’s call for law and order, nor the calls from the Democratic governors in CA and NY, or the Democratic mayor (albeit DINO) of NYC. Basically every statement by a non-progressive politician is vague support for freedom of speech before moving on to statements about violence and antisemitism (generally unsupported) and how protests aren’t supposed to actually inconvenience or disrupt anyone’s lives.

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    In response, other universities have taken Columbia’s lead and cracked down on these protests, which seek to end colleges’ investments in firms supporting Israel’s occupation and its ongoing assault on Gaza.

    These divergent outcomes among schools that relied on police and those that didn’t offer an important lesson on how universities should manage campus activism, while ensuring students’ safety and protecting speech.

    While harassment and intimidation can be reasons to involve law enforcement, the accusations against these protesters mostly focused on their chants and campaign slogans — and in many cases wrongly conflate anti-Israel rhetoric with antisemitism.

    One of the other problems with how many universities and officials have responded to pro-Palestinian demonstrations is that they have changed their protest rules since October 7, in some instances specifically targeting Palestinian solidarity groups.

    It can also ultimately be ineffective; after state troopers arrested students at the University of Texas, for example, the Travis County Attorney’s Office dismissed the criminal trespassing charges, saying they lacked probable cause.

    As the American Civil Liberties Union wrote in an open letter to college and university presidents, schools can announce content-neutral rules and enforce them — that is, set up guidelines that don’t just target certain protests, such as the ongoing pro-Palestinian ones.


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