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- ptman ( @ptman@sopuli.xyz ) 13•5 months ago
Electricity vs. energy. Electricity is only part of energy.
- Allero ( @Allero@lemmy.today ) 3•5 months ago
Even still, this is a great progress in the last decade.
We’re headed in the right direction, even if we better accelerate and spread practices elsewhere.
- considine ( @considine@lemmy.ml ) 10•5 months ago
And to celebrate that fact, Europe is joining the US in imposing massive tariffs on China’s electric vehicles and solar cells. Yay.
- ReversalHatchery ( @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) English2•4 months ago
I largely welcome restricting massproduced mobile surveillance machines made by a chinese hq’d company. Don’t misunderstand me I hate teslas too for this, but we don’t need more of this shit.
- geneva_convenience ( @geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) 1•4 months ago
We are not restricting the surveillance, just making it more expensive.
What we need is forced inspections of the source code and other ways to actually mitigate the security risks.
Just making things more expensive does nothing to mitigate actual the risk.
- Mongostein ( @Mongostein@lemmy.ca ) 1•4 months ago
Yeah I’m not buying any EV until I can get a bare bones model that can install some stripped down open source OS.
- ArrogantAnalyst ( @ArrogantAnalyst@infosec.pub ) 1•5 months ago
That’s a good thing imo. We do this so we can build up an industry for these things at home. That’s an important long term goal, too. If the last years have shown us anything it’s that being solely dependent on another state for certain critical stuff is a bad idea. And I’d say this is especially true for China.
Edit: btw German talking here, not American.
- gandalf_der_12te ( @gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 2•2 months ago
That’s a good thing imo. We do this so we can build up an industry for these things at home.
Unfortunately, most countries haven’t really done much to invest into the production of solar cells in their home country in the last twenty years (Germany is a noteworthy exception), so why would they start now?
Realistically, imposing tariffs on chinese PV cells will only slow the energy transition, instead of building up domestic production.
- ArrogantAnalyst ( @ArrogantAnalyst@infosec.pub ) 2•2 months ago
Gandalf, hast du gerade auf nen 2 Monate alten Beitrag von mir geantwortet? :)
- gandalf_der_12te ( @gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 2•2 months ago
Ja, ist ja immer noch relevant. :-)
Do you want to know how many cars in China are from European car manufacturers?
Rebalancing trade is not some big bogeyman.
- ArrogantAnalyst ( @ArrogantAnalyst@infosec.pub ) 1•4 months ago
I don’t understand what argument you are trying to make. Can you elaborate? You mean we shouldn’t do it because there might be a counterreaction?
- solo ( @solo@kbin.earth ) 7•5 months ago
I suppose greenwashing works? in the sense creates favorable stats, not that it helps the environment.
- geneva_convenience ( @geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) 3•2 months ago
Pretty ironic that it took Putin invading Ukraine to make Europe invest into renewables.
And not to save the planet but to be less dependent on energy from fossil fuels…
- gandalf_der_12te ( @gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 2•2 months ago
I don’t like being cynical like this, but:
Putin’s war really did something for the climate.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Energy think tank Ember found that major growth in wind and solar helped push global electricity production past this milestone in 2023.
Its authors say that this rapid growth has brought the world to a crucial turning point where fossil fuel generation starts to decline.
“You also have the invasion of Ukraine which increased the sense of urgency around transitioning to clean power and getting off relying on fossil fuels - not just coal but also gas, and particularly from Russia.
Plans were put in place to help individual member states reach renewable energy targets and deploy technologies at a national scale.
“Certainly you can’t ignore that there was some demand [based] impact on the decrease in use of fossil fuels, but also there was a significant role of wind and solar replacing it.”
Normally this would have meant that the clean energy capacity added around the world last year would have caused fossil fuel generation to drop by 1.1 per cent.
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