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No one here is questioning a food called fartons? Okay
Never heard of it, nor do I recognize the photo. Grew up in Madrid.
Go with horchata, tipical from Valencia
Cool, TIL!
Ciabattas are way older than that, a guy only patented it in 1982. Ask anyone who was around at the time, they were hugely popular in the 60s and 70s.
If chicken tikka masala has the UK flag and not the Indian one, then nachos should have the US flag, as it was invented in the US (by a Mexican cook named Ignazio, or “Nacho”)
Wikipedia says you are incorrect:
The dish was created by, and named after, Mexican restaurateur Ignacio Anaya, who created it in 1943 for American customers at the Victory Club restaurant in Piedras Negras, Coahuila.
That’s just south of the border in Mexico.
The only one I’m surprised about is tiramisu
Not gonna lie, bubble tea is older than I thought. I thought for some reason it was a product of the 90s. Couldn’t tell you why, other than it just feels right.
Same with blended iced coffee
Poutine.
Wtf, I live in Taiwan and never knew the Mongolian beef was made by us.
This German Doner thing really triggers me. There are other food disputes I can’t support because I don’t know but isn’t döner literally known Turkish? “A German immigrant in B” blah blah?! I’ve ate döner in any form in bread, in plate, in dürüm and even in a fucking lahmacun in 90’s. If this shit continues, I’ll fucking put a shinitzel in a bread and call it “German immigrant invented in İstanbul called Turkish Shinitzel”.
Nobody denies its Turkish roots though. AFAIK putting Kebap in bread isn’t really a thing in Turkey and although one might argue how big a contribution that is, it’s that step that combined a Turkish dish with German Imbiss culture and made this a huge success all over Germany.
You’re welcome to try the same thing with Schnitzel and if you attain the same level of success and cultural significance, I’d rightfully call you the “inventor”. (though I have to inform you, that “Schnitzelsemmel” is a thing already, so maybe think of a different example)
The shawarma and dürüm variants got popular in Turkiye after 2010’s. Before that, we were always eating it in bread. It had veggies too.
If you want to say “it has this specific vegetable and that makes difference” then that’s another perspective I don’t agree with.
You keep telling us about the 90s. The dish had been around for 30 years by then. Enough time for the idea to travel back to Turkey, don’t you think?
Yeah
- no one put it in a bread from 1800s to 1960
- one of the 5m Turkish immigrant invented it
- that variant got back to Turkiye
- that variant became most popular in Turkiye
Makes sense. Unfortunately I don’t want to continue this conversation with assumptions. So you can assume as you want.
If you want to say “it has this specific vegetable and that makes difference” then that’s another perspective I don’t agree with.
That’s not a point I’m trying to make. Although my idea of Döner Kebap includes specific vegetable/salad ingredients, to my understanding the defining step was putting it in a portable loaf of bread, instead of having kebap on a plate. And as another commenter said, that idea might have been re-imported. But neither was I around when it first appeared, nor am I a Döner Historian of any capicity, so I have to rely on the sources I read. I’m also not passionate enough about the topic to do a lot more research. But no matter it’s origins: Döner holds a very special place in Germany’s culinary environment and that’s thanks to Turkish immigration history. So it’s definitely a significant food in this country.
This one goes also to you: https://lemy.lol/comment/10521648
In 30 years it it got invented, re-imported and became most popular.
Caesar salad needs to be added to Mexico’s cultural trophy room as well, I only recently learned. Tiramisu is the ultimate fancy imo. I’ve always loved Mexican food, but am discovering that I love it more than I realized!
Mongolian is my favorite kind of Vietnamese food.
Nobody put cheese on tortillas chips until the 40s? I highly doubt that.
from what i can tell, tortilla chips weren’t really used until somebody started putting cheese on them and calling them nachos