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sabreW4K3 ( sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al )  to Linux@programming.dev · 2 years ago

Linux geeks cheer as Arm wrestles x86 • The Register

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  • schizo ( schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business ) 
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    Open source people “cheering” for Broadcom and Qualcomm based chips? I’m horribly confused as to when the open source types decided they liked greedy, horrible, shitty companies?

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        There’s stuff for sale like that on the ARM side, but you’ll pay out the nose for it, as it’s all enterprise-y server-y stuff. For example, you can buy Ampere chips and boards that have ram slots and pci-e slots and all that jazz, but it costs way too much to make any sort of sense at the consumer level.

        But yeah, on the consumer side we’re never going to get modifiable and upgradable systems from the current crop of SOC vendors, and, worse, the x86 duopoly looks to want to head down the integrated RAM and non-upgradable path too :(

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      Since forever. Go to any “open source” conference and you might as well be sitting in a Mac conference.

      Anti Commercial-AI license

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    I love seeing ARM wrestling

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    ARM will replace x86 and RISC V will move into ARM’s old slot.

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      RISC-V has already been ruined by a zillion proprietary vendor extensions.

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        Can the extensions not be replaced?

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          no it’s part of the physical hardware design

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            What I mean is, given the open source nature of RISC V, if someone puts out a chip with a proprietary extension, isn’t it likely that there will be a rip off that does the same but in an alternative manner? Like how there’s tonnes of Raspberry Pi like boards available.

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              The RISC-V is an extensible ISA, so yes. All those vendor extensions are optional, when fabricating the processor, which can be replaced by other extensions over time.

              Both Intel and AMD have had vendor extensions in the designs that they no longer use, even ones that have been “retracted” (i.e whatever in the heck Intel is doing with their AVX extensions).

              But yeah, currently, there are a lot of proprietary extensions, which could still be declared as open hardware as well. So yeah.

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                I’m honestly surprised that RISC V wasn’t licensed so that it was only open architecture.

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