- cross-posted to:
- trans@lemmy.blahaj.zone
I’m curious what yalls expierence with this is
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Please excuse me if I inadvertently offend. I am a 51 year old bisexual man. I have been an active bisexual man since the late eighties. My wife teases me because of twelve serious relationships I have had with persons born female, ten have been queer. Six of them would probably identify as trans men now but this was the nineties. I also casually dated a lot other queer women, some of which have now officially transitioned.
Ok, all that preamble is in the service of this question. Is “having a type” the same as fetishing? If not, is fetishing like what some do to black men and “BBC hunting”?
If this is an offensive question, please let me know and I will delete. As I said, I am 51. I am from such a different era (which sucked for bi men) that I might as well be from a different planet. I just hate being ignorant on a subject that has been such a big part of my life.
having a type is not the same thing, the essence of fetishizing is objectifying a body type without the consent or consideration of the person who owns the body
e.g. “it would be a shame to waste those great tits of yours” is a fetishization because it’s only taking into account the viewer’s perspective, not the owner’s. a lot of trans men feel really dysphoric about having breasts and, quite frankly, it is only their business if they get top surgery or not. if they ask for your opinion, you can give it, but it should probably emphasize their happiness anyways because they’re the ones who have to live in their body, at the end of the day
basically, as long as you treat the person you’re seeing with respect and consideration for their happiness, you don’t really need to worry about it
Opposite end of the aisle here, but I hope my comment is welcome. I think a lot of this stems from the bioessentially prescriptivist attitudes a lot of people have. It’s for similar reasons that trans women are often framed as predators in women’s spaces that trans men are framed as “smol beans” to protect, or misguided by the Trans Agenda™. It’s an assigning of hyperagengy to AMABs and hypoagency to AFABs, and it’s really gross.
The most “fun” part I’m guessing is when you call it out as a reactionary attitude and cue the shock and horror to the thought, that maybe unsolicited infantilization doesn’t paint transmascs in the positive light they think it does.
From a transfemme to all you wonderful transmascs: you’re valid, you deserve respect, and I love you. I’m sorry this fetishization happens and I hope society will grow to love you as you have grown to love yourselves.
As a trans woman, being fetishized is pretty much the only option I have if I want to date men. Sad to hear trans men deal with this too.
It’s pretty crazy if you look on any porn site under the trans category. If there even is porn with a transmasc person (rare), it’s almost always with a cis man and the trans man is always on the bottom. Feels gross that that’s the only thing available most of the time.
That might be a category with higher straight crossover appeal (and as a result preferred algorithmically without additional data prompts) but trans dom kinks are prevalent.
Anecdotal but a friend told me she shifted her client base to cis male subs for various reasons, the foremost being greater demand.