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millie ( @millie@beehaw.org ) English22•1 month agoDemocrats never get anything done? Guess none of us have ACA insurance or subsidized energy bills. I guess I’m hallucinating the massive jump in food stamp funding a few years back. I must also be making up Massachusetts providing free access to community college for literally everyone over 25 who doesn’t have a degree.
I suppose it means literally nothing that Democrats have provided safe harbor for people seeking abortions from states that outlaw it. Bummer about all those marriages that didn’t happen because Democrats never secured marriage equality.
It’s cool, though. I’m sure the Republicans will actually go do all that stuff the Democrats totally haven’t done.
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 8•1 month agoIf we’re going to pretend that state-level victories should magically be credited to a do-nothing Federal Government controlled by Democrats, then let me remind you that 2/3 of the states are controlled by Republicans, and in 2/3 of the US states it’s still perfectly legal to pay someone $7 an hour.
It matters that Biden, Harris, and their ilk don’t do anything meaningful and rule as conservatives.
millie ( @millie@beehaw.org ) English16•1 month agoACA, energy subsidies, and food stamps are all related to federal funding.
CylustheVirus ( @CylustheVirus@beehaw.org ) English7•1 month agoBiden’s historic climate bill is nothing. Ok comrade.
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 5•1 month agoWhat’s historic is the amount of war spending and the fact that our country and president are actively supporting child genocide.
Leate_Wonceslace ( @Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English19•1 month agoSecond thought has been groomed into being a Tankie. His words should generally be distrusted.
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 6•1 month agoWhat did he say that is factually incorrect? Did you even watch the video?
Leate_Wonceslace ( @Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English16•1 month agoNope; I’m done with him at this point. If you pay attention, my comment isn’t criticizing the video itself but warning about potential inaccuracies.
I don’t need to watch a video to comment on the trustworthiness of its creator.
Edit: your comments about Kamala and Trump being politically similar makes me think you shouldn’t be trusted either.
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 5•1 month agoI don’t need to watch a video to comment on the trustworthiness of its creator.
LOL
Okay.
This is something I occasionally hear and keep not understanding, and it makes me wonder if the word “tankie” is being thrown around a bit fast and loose. Last time I heard this, the reasoning referenced a Vaush video, which is… less than convincing.
My working definition of “tankie” would be someone who unironically full-on likes China*, which is not a take I’ve ever known J.T. to have. Do you use a different definition than me, or do you have specific things you’re upset about?
* Bear in mind I mean "likes China" here, not "thinks China and the U.S. are equally bad."
Leate_Wonceslace ( @Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English8•1 month agoMy understanding of the full story, which comes from my personal observations of how his positions and rhetoric have changed paired with information people I trust have conveyed to me, is that Hakeem (a known Tankie) bragged about becoming Second Thought’s personal confidant and shifting his position on several issues as he was becoming more educated in the left as a whole. His rhetoric shifted from liberal to left-leaning followed by several instances of him using tankie talking points and I remember at least one explicitly tankie video, which is around the time I gave up on him.
Tankies are authoritarians posing as leftists. People who lionize Mao, the Kim Regime, Stalin, Lenin, etc. Tankies always despise America as a concept and will usually give support to whatever they think is worst for America, regardless of how it affects the people not just of the United States, but of the world. I once had a tankie justify this stance and their position that anyone who isn’t a tankie by telling me that the CIA had a program where they would make leftists movements that could ally with American hegemony, so anyone who didn’t hate America was a fake leftist. These are the individuals you see who say that the GOP and DNC are equally bad, talk about how Russia invading Ukraine is fine actually, and how China invading Taiwan is actually good, because Taiwan is full of delusional people denying their heritage to pretend to be white. This is a series of talking points I had with an actual person over a conversation that lasted more than a week. I have since decided that I won’t waste my time trying to talk to them anymore.
So that’s my perspective on it. I can’t promise it’s perfect or even that it’s any good, but it’s the one I have. Hope that helps.
Edit: also, I’m fading in and out of a migrane nap, so apologies for the potential errors/lack of coherence/etc.
Late response (sorry!) but wanted to let you know that I appreciated the comment and details. Personally, this doesn’t convince me he’s a tankie, but that’s largely because I’m not familiar enough with Hakeem to know he’s a tankie, nor do I know what video you were referring to. Which is not to say you’re outright wrong — just that I would want to see more specifics to change my opinion, is all. All the same, I appreciate the effort and am happy to better understand your position.
I do somewhat agree with your definition of a tankie, for what it’s worth. I don’t think saying the GOP and DNC are both bad is necessarily tankie behavior, but the rest makes sense. This said, I’ve personally seen extremely little defense of Russia from any far-left discourse, including communities close to Second Thought, and from what I hear from those communities China is still very divisive. You’ve clearly encountered worse though, and my experiences are limited, so take them for what you will.
Leate_Wonceslace ( @Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English2•1 month agoWe’re internet strangers no need to apologize. 😂
Ty for the response, though. 💝
Golden Cow ( @GoldenCow@lemm.ee ) 3•1 month agoI mean he has done two AMAs on hexbear so clearly he is
FIash Mob #5678 ( @FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org ) 14•1 month agoRemember how excited people were when Kyrsten Sinema was elected? This was an out, fabulous lesbian from a decidedly red state. Her seat was almost certainly going to lead to progressive movement.
But nope.
And now the people are telling me I have to be excited about another bootlicker for the billionaires because she’s a woman and a person of color, but no.
TLDR: This video is on point. Harris is going to rule as a conservative and it doesn’t matter that she’s a Democrat, a woman, or a POC.