History did not start on 7 October. But as the world stops to mourn it will for ever be a reminder of whose lives matter.
Lost your faith in humanity? Or Americans?
You’re right. It didn’t start on Oct 7th. There was a cease fire in place. Then Hamas broke the cease fire, killed over a thousand civilians, kidnapping more, and then hid behind women and children like the cowardly bastards they are. Hamas can go fuck themselves, and so can everyone who supports them.
Pro-tip: Gaza is 99% Sunni Muslim. They are an ethnostate. Israel is only 73.2% Jews, and has people and politicians of all three Abrahamic religions. Gaza criminalizes lgbtq people, and oppressed women. Israel has gay pride parades and women have equal rights.
Why do you think Hamas are the good guys? What conceivable quality do you like about them?
Nice genocide evasion script you got going there.
Idk that script was really convincing. I now think that little baby Hind deserved to die, along with all those other kids. She lived in an ethno state so, what were the Israelis to do besides ruthlessly murder her?
As we all know, the Warsaw ghetto was an ethnostate, that had to go. The slums still being bombed to the south of Beirut, the thuds which have kept me up all night? Overwhelmingly Shia Muslim. That’s right folks, another ethnostate that needs to be destroyed. By the IDF which is definitely not the arm of an ethnostate.
I don’t know what you think genocide is, but I consider genocide to be “the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group” like with the Holocaust or with Hamas’s attempting genocide of Israel.
What do you consider genocide to be?
OK now you’re just straight up trolling. Good luck with that. I don’t think anyone around here is naive enough to not see through your rage baiting.
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You expect me to read obvious propaganda? It’s just Palestine playing the victim. Again. Because they’re cowardly bastards.
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I wouldn’t bother engaging. They’re not commenting in good faith, they’re just trying to annoy us and waste our time.
Palestine playing the victim
Umm, yes? Because they literally are the victim? Of an active genocide that started in October last year, and of apartheid and colonisation that has been going on for decades.
Until Israel goes back to the 1949 borders at least (realistically, that leaves the Gaza strip insanely restricted, and the UN’s 1947 plan for Gaza was so much better), and leaves Palestine alone and punishes Israeli settlers, while ceasing treating Palestinian Israelis as second-class citizens, Israel will remain by far the worse party in this scenario.
https://aussie.zone/post/14343908
But no, it’s definitely Israel that are the good guys here. 🤦♂️
What conceivable quality do you like about them?
The facf they’re not committing genocide right now?
Now that’s just being in denial that you support bad people
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On October 7th ~1,200 Israeli civilians were killed,
No. 1139 people were killed, 373 of which were military or security personnel. Nobody really talks about what exactly happened on October 7th anymore, but the idea that Hamas and other groups entered, killed a bunch of civilians and left does nothing but help Israel.
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But the majority of people they killed were civilians.
That gets us into the whole crossfire and Israeli friendly fire thing, but that’s not really what I’m trying to say. I’m just trying to say that it’s not as simple as “Hamas did a very bad thing to Israel”; a good part of October the 7th was resistance against Israeli occupation (and a good part wasn’t, don’t get me wrong, but I’ve noticed that this fact gets forgotten because Israeli actions deserve condemnation either way).
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the attack on military targets can easily be justified as an act of war.
Yeah that’s exactly what I was getting at. Not trying to defend the atrocities they committed (which are many), but at the start when they weren’t as obviously committing genocide Israel was trying to paint itself as an unambiguous victim and one of their strategies was to claim all the dead as civilians and deny that the attack had any military goals, so I wanted to correct the 1200 civilians figure.
Really need to figure out how to filter keywords in Lemmy. I swear every second article I see is a variation of, 'WAI IS NO1 TALKING ABOUT ISRAEL!?!?!?"
