• The people advocating to accelerate the decline and break the system so they can have their revolution have no idea how many vulnerable people will be killed in the process, nor do they care.

    I would suggest that they look to Syria, and perhaps Myanmar.

    There’s no reason to assume that things will get better after a collapse; things are just as likely, or more likely, to get worse. Right now goddamn near half of the voting public in America wants a guy as president that has told us that he’s going to make things worse for nearly everyone. Meditate on that.

    If the system isn’t changing, you need to put in the time to convince people at the grass-roots level. You need a ground game; you can’t expect that Jill Stein is going to swoop in and save us all, and then act butt-hurt when her campaign fails for the third time in three presidential election cycles.

      • I’m not going to end up getting killed either way, because I’m not an at risk person. I’m white, and I can do a very good job cosplaying as a christian nationalist, because that’s the kind of home I was raised in. And I can just as easily be comfortable with leftists, because that’s what I’ve been for 20-odd years (although the label keeps changing). On the other hand, my Jewish, Muslim, and Satanist friends, my LGBTQ+ friends, my non-white friends, they’re going to suffer and die because of accelerationist fantasies.

        You want to actually see improvement? Start building community locally, expand that into real local political power, and then grow that. It’s real work, harder than being a keyboard warrior. You’ll quickly discover that the very messy job of politics is building consensus and compromising. …Which you should already know, considering how excellent leftist groups are at forming circular firing squads.