Audio, electronic, visual, thermal, olfactory, or similar information.
Clarification: after a bit of research it seems the olfactory section pertains to CCPA California law, many places have olfactory in the privacy policy because it is required by the law. I can’t believe we reached a point where we have to put olfactory in the privacy policy, but then again it won’t be long before Smell-O-Vision becomes reality.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision
They removed it, archived here: https://archive.ph/YYBuJ
Also have a California ip you get a different privacy policy.
my roku TV felt my wrath because it dared to show me a banner ad while I was in the middle of a game.
i promptly disabled internet on it completely. now it’s a dumb TV. and my life is much better.
Yep disabled Internet and I cast video from my phone to the TV so I can control what appears on the screen.
i’d rather masturbate with a cheese grater than own a “smart” tv….
We’ll have fun all TV’s are smart TVs.
That isn’t true
Samsung QBR line is an example of a dumb tv
i don’t own a tv… just a computer
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yeah but i actually control my computer
And more lies we like to tell ourselves
no like i’ve been a computer nerd my whole life and went to college for computer science… and i control my own computer, unlike almost everyone else.
and at least with a pc you can control it… most people don’t
They pushed these changes on Christmas Day.
Knowing no one would read it, since they’re with family just trying to watch a lovely Christmas movie. Bastards.
Edit: autocorrect
The new section pertains to the California Law about biometric data collection, it seems they removed it because it was applied worldwide and they didn’t want that. I used a California VPN server and the privacy policy changed for me.
I don’t connect my Roku TV to the internet, and always use external devi e via HDMI.
- humble peat digger ( @humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee ) English3•3 months ago
Ok. Which device u connect?
Another device that collects the same shit probably 😂😥
- humble peat digger ( @humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee ) English3•3 months ago
I mean the list is pretty small. Unless they install Kodi - everything else is compromised.
It’s a lot easier and cheaper to replace a small device (Roku, Apple TV, Nvidia Shield, Chromecast, Fire Stick, XBMC box, computer, etc) than it is your entire TV. Once you connect and update your TV, I don’t think you can choose to downgrade it later…
I don’t get the logic or what your point is.
My Roku media player, obviously…
Laptop, or a mini PC
- humble peat digger ( @humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee ) English1•2 months ago
Sure, but what os u run? The only open source one for home media is Kodi.
I’ve ran it for a while. But it’s a pita.
My most people that also have jobs don’t do that.I run Arch on both my PC and Laptop. I self host a few containers to stream media from. Either use web front end, or native apps.
I both have a job, and maintain all of this. For fun.
Ya I wanted so bad to like Kodi but no matter what I do it crashes at least a few times daily. Constant audio sync problems and lockups as well.
Every single SmartTV OS does this fyi.
The moose is tightening.
Roku is, first and foremost, an advertising platform.
My friend uses roku and I found it hilariously dystopian that the screen saver is basically just an artistic side scrolling city scape with billboards that advertise shit shows and movies you can stream or pay for.
Plex/Jellyfin is the only way to go.
Any recommended firewall block lists (or allow lists) for Roku?
put it on a damn VLAN with no access to the internet. maybe through a whitelisting proxy. otherwise you won’t know if it just evades your measures by using some encrypted tunnel or anything
Why would I use Roku anyways? It’s such an inferior television operating system.
I’ve had good luck with it for years in comparison to Samsungs junk. I only briefly tried LGs when I bought my C3 but fell back to the Roku because it’s simpler to use (as a CEC device to turn on the audio receiver and change inputs automatically) and syncs between other Rokus. It also has the least amount of issues with Plex and all my Linux ISOs since they’re in varying formats that don’t always play nice with other clients (like the god damned POS Xbox client).
I understand there’s a lot of tracking and phoning home but it’s the least worst option in my experience.
If you have files with a bunch of different formats and codecs you don’t want to use anything Roku, your direct play options are extremely limited. This becomes almost a hard requirement when dealing with hevc 4K hdr/dv stuff unless you’ve got a server with quicksync or some oomph.
I’m probably going to get a lot of derision for this because it’s Lemmy, but for wide direct play coverage you either want an Nvidia Shield or an Apple TV 4K. I like the Apple TV solution, and everyone in my household is familiar with the UI. The Shield is the only one of the two to support Atmos audio if you have ceiling or upward firing speakers. It’s also not apple if you’re ideologically opposed to owning Apple products.
I’m not surprised you fell back to a Roku box from the built in TV apps, but if you’re going to go for a dedicated streaming box Roku, Firesticks/Firecubes, and Chromecasts should be the last resort due to ads in the experience and codec support.
The codec support varies from one Roku unit to the next. I have a couple of ultra 4s and they play hevc 4k without problems.
I’ve considered moving to shield, I tried Apple TV and I hated it.
I mean if my options were “Roku level ad invasion” and “Let Tim Apple own this ass every time I boot up an Apple TV” I’d be starting my power bottom fiber regimen yesterday, but you do you boo.
- humble peat digger ( @humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee ) English5•3 months ago
Look at this guy with choices.
I mean - these days u go to store and buy a tv. Many people don’t even know what os is on it.
LOL fair. If I have a choice (we’ll see when I move out) I take Google TV over Roku everytime. Roku’s software is horrible, Apple got sued over doing far less than what Roku does with their operating system.
I hope you don’t think actually think that Google doesn’t do the same shit.
I do but at least they don’t prevent you from suing them like Roku does.Never mind, I guess they do
https://support.google.com/store/answer/9427031?hl=en
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/r265c7/how_to_opt_out_of_googles_binding_arbitration/
The operating system is still better though. Suck it Roku.
All these companies are equally shit ha. Also i’ve found that you can block a lot of the telemetry on all these OS’ with Pihole.
- humble peat digger ( @humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee ) English2•2 months ago
Nah, not really. It’s gonna be cat and mouse with pihole.
Only there will be 5000 cats and 200 mouses.U can’t win fight as a mouse - use a Kodi and don’t play by enemy rules.
If u care as much
I’m not going to argue that Roku’s software is better, it’s definitely worse, but honestly, it’s not that much worse and doesn’t really impact day to day usage.
The voice recognition in the remote is slightly worse, the OS is less pretty and a little slower to navigate, but when 90% of its time being used is either playing something or displaying a screensaver, none of that really matters. It still opens instantly when I turn the Xbox on, it still lets me open whatever app I need and select a show, and it has one feature that Google TV doesn’t have that’s genuinely great which is private listening, where the audio will play from the Roku app on your phone so you can use headphones and not wake anyone.
Honestly, I would buy the best picture quality TV I could and not worry about Google OS or Roku OS at this point. And if you do get a Roku TV, I definitely don’t think it’s worth giving Google more money on top of that.
Hmm I can’t say I’ve ever used the voice features. But I (unfortunately) got my family into the Roku ecosystem awhile ago (before streaming blew up, we had got rid of DirecTV longgggg ago when it became too expensive and my dad had lost his job) and every single Roku device we’ve ever had except for the 2018 Roku Premiere+ just slowly gets more and more broken over time. The interface will take multiple seconds to respond to a button press after a couple years or so. It’s so bad that we have a Roku TV that’s so slow that there’s a Roku device plugged into it that we use instead, and even that device is so slow that I’m washing it got burned with fire. On top of that I can tell that certain apps know that they’re running on crappy hardware and software (particularly the Sling TV app), and deliver footage at a horrendously low video quality as a result.
except for the 2018 Roku Premiere+ just slowly gets more and more broken over time. The interface will take multiple seconds to respond to a button press after a couple years or so.
weird, back in 2020 I set up a tv in my office to stream. I pulled an old Roku from who knows when (pre2014 when we moved) and hooked it up and it worked great.
All models except the Roku Ultra will likely need to be replaced every 12-18 months. After that they start getting incredibly slow. The Ultra’s seem to hang in there for at least 36 months, sometimes longer.
Probably a catch-all for their next generation of Roku devices they’re developing.
It is definitely a catch all, disclosure of this information is required by California law, that is the only reason they even put it in the policy. They seem to have accidentally released it worldwide, which is why they reverted it, now it only shows if you have a California ip.
I ain’t reading all that
And you’re someone who cares enough about privacy to subscribe to this community.
Which is why the only actual viable solution is legislation and privacy protection laws.
but also because reading the policy doesn’t help much when there are no options (brands) that are acceptable
OP could have included a summary, description, or quote of what they’re referring to and criticizing. They did not.
If you don’t own a Roku device, there’s no reason to read all that. I certainly don’t want to read the full privacy policy either and then guess what OP opened a discussion about or other commenters talk about.
Also, this community is called piracy, not privacy.
We have a roku TV that has no internet connection. It did when we first got it and didn’t play as much attention to this kind if thing. It’s now a dumb TV that’ll never get internet again. We run everything through an rpi4 running osmc.
Smell-O-Vision sounds like a great idea until you think about it while watching a zombie movie.
When Roku took all four of my set-top roku devices hostage a while back with their forced Terms of Service update, I threw them all in the trash and have warned people against using them since.
Roku is a garbage ad company that will continue to use your devices against you.