jesus christ these comments are terrible

What is Finland though? Social democracy seems pretty good but still fits in with capitalism as far as I can tell

I think it’s important to clarify that markets and the use of money are not exclusive to capitalism. Under capitalism, the point of markets is to accumulate money absent of any actual project or goal, and money is the way the capital holding class keeps score. In other systems, the point of markets is to connect people who have some item with people who need or want that item and money is the means of exchange. Markets are fine for distributing excess materials and labor, once people’s basic needs are met.

Capitalism is the fundamental belief in private ownership. That I can own a factory, a store, a restaurant, and therefore be entitled to the profits produced from them. Modern capitalism is inextricable from consumerism, from business, and from stock exchanges.

Capitalism is any resource or good harvested or produced that is not shared by all who produced it. Capitalism is the idea that some labor is more deserving of the fruits of production than other kinds of labor. Capitalism is violence against the working class. Capitalism is the means by which a new ruling class was created over the past 200 years that presently controls the entire world while utterly ravaging our environment and wasting more resources than we literally every could have thought possible.

You are NOT a leftist if you support capitalism. You are ANTI-WORKER if you support capitalism. If you want to support workers and if you want to support progressive leftist causes, ORGANIZE. Join your local anarchist community. Agitate, push leftist politics. Start mutual aid networks for vulnerable workers in your community. Support unionization efforts. Support striking workers. Participate in civil disobedience. Show up at protests. Organize demonstrations.

The world has never been changed by accepting the crumbs they threw at our feet. It was changed by those who refused to bow their heads. By the communities who resisted oppression and fought for their fellow workers. By people who fought for us all to live better lives. Count yourself among them.

Left and right are completely arbitrary semantic categories so you can define them however you like, as long as it has a clear and internally consistent definition.

I’ve even seen ancaps who have almost the same definition as I do but completely reversed which is pretty funny but also gives me a headache.

So where do Co-ops fall, one where all the workers own everything equally and vote on hiring and firing etc?

Keynesian economic policy resulted in unprecedented prosperity for 60 years. It ended by Reagan’s trickle down supply side economics.

Seems now there’s a false dichotomy between supply side economics (which is an obvious failure) and communism (which was an obvious failure).

Crazy idea, maybe we should consider using economic policy that was proven to work? I guess that makes me hated by both the “right” and the “leftists” (two peas in a pod). So where would that put me in your made up political spectrum?

“Pro capitalism” and harm reduction are not the same thing. Some form of capitalist-like economics will exist until we achieve post scarcity economics. The best we can do until then is work towards that end, while also working to minimize the harms imposed by material and labor scarcity.

This is just another stupid purity test by people who care more about their own righteousness than actual action. You can call my praxis whatever you want. I don’t care.

Being right-wing isn’t even a bad thing. Problems occur if you go too far to the right.

I know its hard to believe these days but nuanced beliefs exist.

You can’t regulate or eliminate human greed … because there will always be a highly motivated, intelligent idiot that thinks they can become King of the Universe.

We just need a way to outlaw billionaires and keep everyone under an upper ceiling of wealth.

It won’t solve every problem but regulating wealth will sure allows us to deal with every other problem on the planet rather than the current state we are in.