This is standard dictator behavior, giving up power for the benefit of their people.
I think you’re being downvoted because you’re missing the
/sIf this needs to add /s then the downvoters have room temperature IQ.
… In centigrade.
Well a meat locker is a kind of room.
They’re getting downvoted because the average Lemmy user is terminally incapable of reading the room.
To be fair, sarcasm doesn’t really convey through text
This has been known since the dawn of the internet
Funny time to do it, once he’s lost the war, had Ukrainians kidnapped straight onto the frontlines, and once negotiations are taking place without him (which might end with him in front of a jury). Not to mention member states have already taken it off the table which means “I’m not going at all”. Might as well have said his only demand is to marry the tooth fairy.
But sure, y’all just keep fetishizing yet another western puppet who called off elections but did it “for the right reasons.”
Do you support concession of the currently occupied territories?
Lmao. Might as well ask me if I condemn Hamas too. It doesn’t matter what I support or don’t support, what matters is what the people of the region support and have the ability to enforce. The DNR and LNR seceded after the US financed coup violated their democracy. Those territories were occupied from 2014 to 2022 by a US vassal, and you can tell by the endless patrols and bombing they endured.
huh?
I’m confused by anyone who demands Ukraine should cede territory and denies they can ever join NATO. Have fun seeing Crimean/Ukrainian/etc. conflicts repeat every few years while Russia keeps learning the lesson that imperialism is back in style. Are these people literal children, or Russian bots?
Ukraine agreed to give up their nukes as part of the Budapest Memorandum which Russia shat on, and the United States showed how little their security assurances were worth. The sad reality now is Ukraine could be admitted to NATO tomorrow and it would not matter one bit, because our current president believes himself a king who cannot be forced to abide any previous treaty, law, or norm of human decency.
Right, Russia simply shat on the Budapest Memorandum unprovoked; the West and Ukraine didn’t shit on any promises and accords beforehand. And history began exactly three years.
Speaking of “literal children”: people like you who don’t know the difference between “is” and “ought”
Is NATO membership still a valid goal to pursue?
“Valid” as in feasible? No. The war was started to keep Ukraine out of NATO, and Ukraine wasn’t fully backed by NATO in the war because it isn’t willing to go to war with Russia just for Ukraine.