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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/40065884
YA THINK?!?!
orbituary ( @orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English20•20 days agoWhy does everyone forget about the Steele Dossier and the Muller Report? How fucking dense are we collectively that we cannot see this clearly?
I’m so exhausted by all of this.
adm ( @adm@lemm.ee ) English12•13 days agoSo, I consume their media so you don’t have to. The short answer here is that from the moment it came out they’ve called it fake. Now they actually say that the government itself found the report to be fake. So, yeah they won’t listen. Even if tomorrow a full report with names and links and bank accounts came out. Everything you could want…they would think it’s fake and as soon as THEIR media starts confirming that they’ll forget about it.
davesmith ( @davesmith@feddit.uk ) English10•20 days agoThe question for me is why didn’t our intelligence services - who want to spy on everybody all the time - understand the risks and inform former governments to prepare? We now need weapons. We needed them three years ago.
I remember Sunak sitting down with Musk at some conference or other very recently, when in fact we should have been preparing for what this individual and his mates were preparing to do once in office.
Our intelligence services were and are too preoccupied with labelling teachers doctors and scientists as domestic terrorists for protesting that climate science is being ignored to devastating coming effect, and banning protests, rather than dealing with the actual threat. Unless of course they don’t really see Musk and Trump as at least an ideological threat.
futatorius ( @futatorius@lemm.ee ) 6•20 days agoThe question for me is why didn’t our intelligence services - who want to spy on everybody all the time - understand the risks and inform former governments to prepare?
How do you know they didn’t?
davesmith ( @davesmith@feddit.uk ) English6•20 days agoFair enough, maybe they did and government’s chose not to act.
Edit - but even if they did, they have been busy taking away British people’s rights to privacy and protest, rather than addressing the growing issue of the USA turning to a Russia that threatens Europe. Ultimately the result is the same. Complete failure of those services, in conjunction with government, to provide an open and free, civilised society.
jatone ( @jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English6•20 days agoPeople often dont believe you when you tell them things they make up their own little narrative to make themselves feel better.
PhilipTheBucket ( @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat ) 16•20 days agoPossibility?
frankPodmore ( @frankPodmore@slrpnk.net ) English9•20 days agoI hate on the Tories a lot but I’m glad they’re not the Republicans.
EDIT: To be very clear: you don’t gotta hand it to them.
futatorius ( @futatorius@lemm.ee ) 12•20 days agoThere’s a faction that wants to emulate the Republicans: Badenoch, Braverman, Truss, to name a few.
frankPodmore ( @frankPodmore@slrpnk.net ) English4•20 days agoOh, 100%. The America-brained fools and dupes have all too much influence, but most of the MPs, members and voters of the Tories also hate Trump. Bear in mind they elected Badenoch out of sheer stupidity rather than conviction, and when they forced the invidious choice of Badenoch v. Jenrick on themselves, they picked the less Trumpy of the two.