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See, the thing about this framing is that by this logic the PS5 is also doing this “without a graphics card”. They’re both APUs, they both have a GPU in them.
Does the PS5 really not have a dedicated graphics chip?
They kinda do, but they put the dedicated chip into the same die as the CPU so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yep. Same as the Strix Point APUs and the M series Apple stuff and the Steam Deck and the Switch and a whole bunch of other things.
It’s kinda weird that people are beign shocked by this only now. I guess the long tradition of laptop iGPUs sucking has led to some weird assumptions.
🤯
Please yes. The average person doesn’t need an insane graphics card, if they can make an APU that’s affordable it’ll fly off the shelves.
That would make a nice Linux-based gaming PC for my kids that is for sure.
I’m at the point where I am only interested in handheld gaming.
The only reason I’d buy a dedicated gpu these days is to run AI stuff locally.
APUs like the 5700g during the pandemic’s GPU shortage were already an amazing deal and kept me from blowing too much cash on a couple of new builds. AMD’s a real hero when it comes to value.
The new Asus ROG Flow Z13 with the AMD Ryzen Al Max+ 395 is impressive to say the least.
If it would be 15-16 inch, I would get it right away.
Can’t wait for what to come.
ROG Flow 13 looks dope, and while I appreciate your opinion for 15-16", the smaller the better in my book. Rocking a 10.1" Onexplayer netbook 5 and its okay, no Z13 tho, but also way cheaper
Reminder that all AMD’s “AI” processors require soldered memory.
Also they already made an appearance in the Framework desktop. It’s garbage.
No they don’t, but the ones with the 8050S do. That’s the tradeoff. If you don’t want a soldered chip (the cpu is also soldered to the mainboard) buy the lower tier but same gen APUs with normal iGPUs, like the ones in the Framework 13.
I wonder if CAMM modules will ever take off, I’ve always been told the reason soldered memory exists was to cut down on latency.
now I know that’s probably bullshit to some extent and more away to sell people on the higher tier SKUs
but I know moving off of existing technologies carries cost that companies might not want to bear
CAMM has been around for years at this point and I’ve only seen them in a couple devices so, no, I don’t think so. They still can’t match the speed of solder either.
Yes, they do.
That’s incorrect.
The Framework Desktop features soldered RAM to achieve the DDR5-8000 speeds. The Framework 13 caps out at DDR5-5600 but has regular DIMM slots.
You didn’t say anything to indicate that I was incorrect.
You said they require soldered RAM. But the framework 13 doesn’t…