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 Wilshire   ( @Wilshire@beehaw.org )  to PoliticsEnglish · 3 years ago

Trump finds no new lawyers in time for Mar-a-Lago documents arraignment

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Trump finds no new lawyers in time for Mar-a-Lago documents arraignment

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 Wilshire   ( @Wilshire@beehaw.org )  to PoliticsEnglish · 3 years ago
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  •  navydevildoc   ( @navydevildoc@sh.itjust.works ) 
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    What a clown show. The article lays in out pretty well… it turns out not paying or listening to his lawyers is one problem. The other? One of his former attorneys is now a central witness in the case due to Trump having him lie to the FBI. No one wants any part of this mess.

    •  Sonemonkey   ( @Sonemonkey@lemmy.world ) 
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      You mean people don’t want to work and potentially put themselves in legal jeopardy for free? I am shocked! /s/

      •  girlfreddy   ( @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca ) 
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        shooketh

  •  stumbling_sober   ( @stumbling_sober@vlemmy.net ) 
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    It’s a red flag when the interview starts with, “Even though all the other lawyers who would be willing to help are already indicted, in jail, or disbarred, would you still like to join the team?”

    •  girlfreddy   ( @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca ) 
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      At this point all I can do is laugh at his imbecility.

      •  OniiFam   ( @OniiFam@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) Banned
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        •  The Velour Fog   ( @Blackfeathr@lemmy.world ) 
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          Lead poisoning will do that to a mf

  •  baldingpudenda   ( @baldingpudenda@lemmy.world ) 
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    Lmao, even the lawyer that was interested because it was a high paying job turned it down. Probably because his firm reminded him that Trump doesn’t pay and with him being found guilty much less so.

    •  TechyDad   ( @TechyDad@beehaw.org ) 
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      Exactly. Trump can promise to pay giant stacks of cash, but it doesn’t mean squat if he’s going to refuse to actually pay his legal fees. At best, you’ll have represented him for free (ot a greatly reduced rate). At worst, contact would Trump will have implicated you in a crime and you’ll go to prison.

      I wonder why lawyers are avoiding him?

    •  Corkyskog   ( @Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ) 
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      I think more realistically the firm knows it’s a losing case likely to draw a ton of attention, so they don’t want their practice marred by it.

  •  Lauchs   ( @Lauchs@lemmy.world ) 
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    I for one am shocked! Sure, a large part of the case is about how Donald appears to have tricked a lawyer into making false declarations and yeah, maybe Donald doesn’t always pay his debts and fine, the case looks pretty much air tight but… uhhhh. Something?

    •  Sal   ( @Sallp@lemmy.world ) 
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      Maybe he paid upfront.

  •  ImFresh3x   ( @ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works ) 
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    I mean, the indictment clearly shows proof that Trump will jeopardize a lawyer’s freedom by asking them to do something highly illegal. And that he’s unwilling to comply with common sense approach to the law. At this point no firm with any prestige would want to touch this. And it’s all self inflicted.

    Also, layers like to win cases. This case is un-winnable. The incident is a masterpiece.

    •  Laconic   ( @Laconic@beehaw.org ) 
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      Federal public defenders are world class so he’s going to get a fair trial regardless.

    •  aponigricon   ( @aponigricon@beehaw.org ) 
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      Also, layers like to win cases. This case is un-winnable. The incident is a masterpiece.

      That doesn’t discourage some of them, especially in high-profile cases like this. Hans Littens and Robert Servatiuses exist everywhere.

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  •  TechyDad   ( @TechyDad@beehaw.org ) 
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    He should totally represent himself. You know the old saying “The man who represents himself is a bigly brained genius and definitely doesn’t have a fool for a client!”

  •  Killer_Tree   ( @Killer_Tree@sh.itjust.works ) 
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    It’s no surprise that anyone with enough intelligence to have the clearance to handle this case wouldn’t want anything to do with it. The writing is on the wall (and in the ballroom, in the bathroom, in the poolhouse…)

    •  Uniquitous   ( @Uniquitous@lemmy.one ) 
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      On the wall, written in ketchup

      •  TechyDad   ( @TechyDad@beehaw.org ) 
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        Right next to a giant stack of boxes.

  •  thefloatingpoint   ( @thefloatingpoint@feddit.de ) 
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    „He doesn’t pay his lawyers“ should be enough. But it just keeps on going. It’s like he miraculously finds new ways to fuck everyone over who comes into contact with him.

  •  Em Adespoton   ( @adespoton@lemmy.ca ) 
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    I do find it interesting that Trump may end up having to use a public defender or represent himself… and since he’s a narcissist, I can guess which option he’d take.

    •  ug01x   ( @ug01x@lemmy.world ) 
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      In this case he will have “the best lawyer ever”. Where did I put my popcorn?

  •  hooch   ( @hooch@beehaw.org ) 
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    Turns out lawyers don’t like clients who won’t ever pay them

    •  TechyDad   ( @TechyDad@beehaw.org ) 
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      Also lawyers don’t like clients who lie to them and trick them into helping with criminal acts. The legal profession tends to frown upon such things.

      •  girlfreddy   ( @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Because it often costs them their license. But just like drunk drivers there will be some who just can’t stop chasing the poison.

        •  taco_ballerina   ( @taco_ballerina@lemmy.world ) 
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          Nah, in theory there’s lots of misconduct that can get an attorney disbarred but in practice it’s pretty much just doing drugs and mishandling client money.

  •  Uniquitous   ( @Uniquitous@lemmy.one ) 
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    I hope this isn’t too uncharitable to say, but… HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!

  •  KerPop47   ( @KerPop47@lemmy.world ) 
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    This is what happens when you say real lawyers don’t take notes

    And then refuse to pay your lawyers

    And then lie to your lawyers so they sign false statements to the government

  •  HisNoodlyServant   ( @HisNoodlyServant@beehaw.org ) 
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    Guessing they will just assign him a lawyer like anyone else. Really curious how this is all going to work. I imagine anyone in the court room will probably need some crazy clearances.

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      I don’t know. So an important fact you have to consider is that we are only seeing evidence presented that was already cleared to be released. That’s why many think the indictment was brought immediately following the ISIS attack on Iran. There are likely many much worse documents he had in his possession but prosecution is prevented from showing it or using it as evidence so defense may not necessarily require clearance. Regardless federal courts have the ability to compel a lawyer to take on a case for clients who cannot otherwise hire representation. I imagine they could easily find a lawyer with proper clearance if it was necessary. Ron Desantis could take the case.

  •  WhiteOakBayou   ( @WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world ) 
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    I hope he doesn’t use this to try and delay

    •  girlfreddy   ( @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca ) 
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      But you know he will anyway cause he can. :/

    •  shadymerchant   ( @shadymerchant@lemmy.world ) 
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      He will.

  •  DisparateDan   ( @DisparateDan@beehaw.org ) 
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    Let’s hope Barry Zuckerkorn is free to take the case.

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      He’s very good.

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