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Being tolerant to intolerance leads to more intolerance. Being intolerant to intolerance does not lead to more intolerance.
It is not just OK, but necessary to be intolerant towards fascist ideologies.
Punch every Nazi. Every single one.
Also punch people who tell you not to punch Nazis. Those are Nazis
“If you punch a Nazi, the number of Nazis in the world remains the same!”
“Punch two.”
I could not agree more!
Batman oppresses crime and everybody thinks he’s cool, I don’t see why oppressing fascists should be any different
No, you don’t understand, batman is rich so he is allowed to use violence.
For those interested on further reading, the paradox of tolerance: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
- AnarchoYeasty ( @AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org ) 9•2 years ago
I see this answer given a lot on reddit when this paradox is brought up so I’ll post it here too. There is no paradox of tolerance because tolerance is not a rule but a social contract. When someone is intolerant they have violated said social contract and thus are no longer covered by it and are not granted tolerance. We tolerate those who tolerate others.
It’s basically the copyleft of society.
Come on, old man, you and i used to punch Nazis, and now you’re defending them?
“Sorry, I just dont believe your fascist ideologyjshould be exposed to kids, why do you want to groom them?”
Would using their arguments against them make them angry? I hope so
It probably would not because they don’t believe in the argument anyway most of the time. They don’t argue in good faith. They use that argument because it’s something we would disagree with, but it’s something they want to do.
I smile the same way anytime a Trumper complains about oppression too
It’s a hard life being a democrat. (I don’t mean the party.)
imagine being a republican (not the party)
I remember the first time as not-an-American that I saw someone angrily ranting about “republicans” and I was very confused.
- Hot Saucerman ( @dingus@lemmy.ml ) 9•2 years ago
Based Sisko.
Sisko punched Q.
That’s a metaphor but also what happened.
- Foresight ( @Foresight@lemmy.ml ) 4•2 years ago
Marxism-leninism isn’t fascist though
it’s the same bullshit under a different flag. the shit that happened in the eastern bloc was just as oppressive and authoritarian, the simple fact that it’s politically considered “left” and not “right” doesn’t make it any better.
and the worst part about this world view is that it tends to divide the world into two groups of authies that are the same group that larp against each other, and a bunch of indecisive schmucks in the middle who are weak for not “fully embracing” their “side” and joining one of the two groups. while what’s really happening is that those schmucks are just capable of empathy unlike the tankies or nazis who insist they don’t totally do the same shit as each other.
- Foresight ( @Foresight@lemmy.ml ) 0•2 years ago
No the Nazis did not do central economic planning and the USSR did not believe the strong should rule the weak nor did they believe in creating a “master race” by exterminating the perceived other and before you say much GuLaGs a Gulag is a prison in which you serve time by working, similar to private prisons in the US however it wasn’t done on the basis of exchange value but labour time.
i’m hungarian. you don’t have to explain to me how the soviets operated, it deeply permeates our culture.
central economic planning and master races are not what this is about. we’re talking about oppression, and lots of politically left ideologies did that a lot. the book 1984 was so scary not because it’s an exploration of an oppressive society, but because the particular flavor of that oppression matches the soviet ideology so well that up until the collapse of the USSR it was a very real possibility that its world would come true.
add to that that most modern-day tankies care a lot less about central planning, all they really want to do is dunk on the west, and end up propping up russia and china in the process, with all their hateful baggage.
- Foresight ( @Foresight@lemmy.ml ) 1•2 years ago
Central economic planning is what socialism is about to solve the crisis of over production doing away with the profit motive.
What’s with the rise in number of anti-Nazi posts? Not that I am against it, I’m just seeing more posts about it than usual in here.