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Hunter Biden, the son of President Joe Biden, will plead guilty to three federal charges, the Justice Department said Tuesday in a court filing.
Poster Comment: If the man committed a crime, then he needs to do the time.
- demvoter ( @demvoter@kbin.social ) 47•1 year ago
No one is above the law. Now, republicans, can you say the same?
- sensibilidades ( @sensibilidades@kbin.social ) 39•1 year ago
They don’t actually care about the law. Hunter Biden is only useful to them as something to deflect and waste air complaining about, they don’t actually want anything to happen to him legally and they don’t care about principle.
- Flaky_Fish69 ( @Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social ) 5•1 year ago
This isn’t entirely true. They also wank off to his dick pic.
- DarkThoughts ( @DarkThoughts@kbin.social ) 4•1 year ago
Hunter is just their bullshit scapegoat for all their idiotic outrage & conspiracy shit, and only because he’s the son of the current democratic president.
- FirstSeaLord ( @FirstSeaLord@kbin.social ) 30•1 year ago
Hunter Biden will plead guilty to two federal tax misdemeanors and one charge tied to gun possession
Not exactly great but nothing conspiracy related you’all.
- SnowboardBum ( @SnowboardBum@kbin.social ) 25•1 year ago
Most federal charges end in plea deals. Only dumb dumbs try to win at trial.
- Notorious ( @Notorious@lemm.ee ) 5•1 year ago
The other guy will eventually plea. It would be stupid not to.
- SmolderingSauna ( @SmolderingSauna@kbin.social ) 6•1 year ago
Paraphrasing Ron White
He has the right to remain silent, but doesn’t have the ability…
- JakeBacon ( @JakeBacon@lemm.ee ) 22•1 year ago
Is this all that was on this “laptop” I keep seeing people meme about? I haven’t paid the whole situation much attention but this seems like a lot less of a deal than what some people were making it out to be.
- IHeartBadCode ( @IHeartBadCode@kbin.social ) 11•1 year ago
Um, sort of. Biden will plea guilty to two counts Federal misdemeanor of willful failure to pay income taxes (26 USC § 7203). Additionally, has entered into a pretrail diversion agreement on a felony charge of possession of a gun by a person who is addicted to illegal drugs. The agreement requires the defendant to comply with particular conditions set in the deal to avoid prosecution.
While none of this per se is from the “laptop”, an investigation was opened up and these issues were discovered along the way. The original investigation was into any kind of money laundering scheme and thus it involved his taxes. Biden’s lawyer indicated:
With the announcement of two agreements between my client, Hunter Biden, and the United States Attorney’s Office for the District of Delaware, it is my understanding that the five-year investigation into Hunter is resolved.
So given that, that is pretty much the end of any kind of criminal investigation. Each count can offer a fine up to $25,000 and 1 year minus a day prison time. However, considering that he is pleading guilty it will be significantly less than that. In fact, I believe I read somewhere that the DOJ was recommending probation, fine, and paid back taxes which is pretty consistent with how post-1980s IRS deals with tax evasion.
I think Trump’s response is classic however:
Wow! The corrupt Biden DOJ just cleared up hundreds of years of criminal liability by giving Hunter Biden a mere “traffic ticket.” Our system is BROKEN!
One… Hundreds of years? Really? Two. Yeah, funny thing when you cooperate with investigators and have a competent legal representation, they tend not to want to throw the book at you. Three. STOP NOT PAYING YOUR LAWYERS DIPSHIT!! It really runs the pool down of lawyers that represent on complex legal issues pro bono.
That last one I cannot stress enough. Proper legal representation is critical to not getting railroaded. If you’ve got a pretty toxic reputation where few if any lawyers will work with you, you better buckle up and say “choo choo”.
- Steeve ( @Steeve@lemmy.ca ) 3•1 year ago
Damn, dude got caught because his dad is Joe Biden. Hope my dad never becomes the president of the United States.
- kestrel7 ( @kestrel7@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
It is a little ironic given how Joe Biden is expanding the IRS.
- Invalid ( @Invalid@kbin.social ) 5•1 year ago
I’ve mostly seen the laptop being related to the accusations of quid quo pro between Hunter, Joe, and some Ukrainian businessmen or officials. The same accusations as the FBI informant.
There were a bunch of photos and emails from the laptop but it seems they mostly just want to use it against Joe.
- mustyOrange ( @mustyOrange@beehaw.org ) 8•1 year ago
There’s no way that laptop didn’t have extra shit put on it. Im not a fan of Biden by any stretch, but the whole thing is just silly and murky. Could there be some possibility of corruption with the Bidens? Absolutely - but this laptop will never prove anything
From the hunter Biden laptop Wikipedia
Neither analyst could verify the vast majority of the data, nor could they find clear evidence of tampering but they note “key pieces of evidence useful in discovering tampering were not available.” In some cases, The Post matched content to other sources “that the experts were not able to assess”. The unverifiable emails included some prominently reported previously by other news outlets. The analysis found that people other than Hunter Biden had created six new folders on the drive over a week after the original report by the New York Post and months after the laptop had been taken into FBI custody. It also found that data had been accessed and copied off the drive by people other than Hunter Biden over the course of nearly three years.
The whole thing is a bunch of disinfo bullshit
- TwistedFox ( @TwistedFox@kbin.social ) 2•1 year ago
The GOP accusations were a tonne of child porn and conspiracied themselves into proof of murder, pedophilia rings and all sorts of crime. The laptop likely didn’t exist, and if it did, certainly wasn’t his.
- Ragnell ( @Ragnell@kbin.social ) 17•1 year ago
So President’s sons are no longer offlimits. Sweet. Soon an ex-President, and then maybe we can actually manage to impeach a sitting official that I hope is someone on SCOTUS.
- OOFshoot ( @OofShoot@beehaw.org ) 14•1 year ago
Honestly? Even though Trump fans don’t give a shit about rational arguments, it’s nice to know they can’t pretend there’s no recent precident for charging a president’s family with crimes.
- Jimmycrackcrack ( @Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml ) 1•1 year ago
There’s nothing they won’t pretend and they’ll just jump to the next biggest stretch when each plausibly reasonable response is exhausted and when there’s nothing reasonable left they’ll be just as happy to abandon reason.
In this case there’s even a reasonablish riposte in as much as the amount of trouble he seems to be getting in is pretty limited, which may or may not be because it’s the appropriate thing to happen in light of the facts or might be the result of who his father is. If you are committed to the idea that prosecution of Trump is bad whether it’s just or unjust simply because you will always support Trump then it makes sense that the best reply to a recent instance of justice extending even to a presidential relation proving that there is not double standard would be to say that that this was tokenistic because of how minor the consequences.
- stonedonkey ( @stonedonkey@kbin.social ) 8•1 year ago
Good. If someone breaks the law they should be charged, not a really hard concept to understand.
- Snapz ( @Snapz@beehaw.org ) 3•1 year ago
Remember, the trump sycophants have ZERO capacity for nuance.
As much as any conviction of trump is downplayed to “not even a big deal” or “nothing burger”, every conviction of a perceived “enemy” is automatically on par with them taking full responsibility for perpetrating a mass genocide.
This will just be seen as ambiguously “guilty” and the cookoos will have all the catharsis and “OMGzzz!” reaction as if he was convicted at a jury trial of multiple crimes against humanity.
- sensibilidades ( @sensibilidades@kbin.social ) 2•1 year ago
I mean this completely apolitically - has anyone ever seen Hunter Biden and Jordan Peterson in the same place at the same time?
- kitonthenet ( @kitonthenet@kbin.social ) 2•1 year ago
Ok
- rebul ( @rebul@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
If he were poor and Black, he would’ve gotten 20 years. Surely there will Lib outrage?
Has a sentence been handed down yet?
- rebul ( @rebul@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
All indications are that he will not serve any time in exchange for the plea deal.
Would you mind sharing some of these indications?
- rebul ( @rebul@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
Sure! See paragraphs 2 and 5:
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/20/1087173827/hunter-biden
You’re welcome!
Guess we will see what happens when it all shakes out. No sense getting worked up over something that hasn’t happened yet
- JayJay ( @JayJay@kbin.social ) 1•1 year ago
The president can pardon any federal charge.
- WidowsFavoriteSon ( @WidowsFavoriteSon@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year ago
You can’t be pardoned until you’re convicted.
- JustAnotherOddOne ( @JustAnotherOddOne@beehaw.org ) 3•1 year ago
Unfortunately not true; Trump pardoned several of his allies pre-trial, shutting down the process down before convictions could be secured. This included, notably, a Mossad agent responsible for recruiting US military personnel as assets; Steve Bannon, who on top of everything else was facing fraud charges for all the money that disappeared from the border wall crowd funding scam; and Kenneth Kurson, who ran a pro-Trump “newspaper” owned by Kushner, who was facing charges for cyber stalking Trump opponents.
- WidowsFavoriteSon ( @WidowsFavoriteSon@beehaw.org ) 2•1 year ago
Well how about that. TIL. Thanks!