•  loops   ( @loops@beehaw.org ) 
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    711 months ago

    Of course. They’re not actually crusading for free-speech, I have a hard time understanding what they are “crusading” about. I believe they don’t know either; though they wouldn’t tell you that and they don’t even tell themselves that.

    I think it’s more of a feeling they are after, what feels right to them. Logic and morals was never a part of it, and never will be a part of it.

    •  nzodd   ( @nzodd@beehaw.org ) 
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      511 months ago

      Conservatives love free speech when it means that they can openly advocate for forced registrations and genocide, but if somebody starts talking about human rights, out come the bonfires.

    •  StrayCatFrump   ( @StrayCatFrump@slrpnk.net ) 
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      11 months ago

      I have a hard time understanding what they are “crusading” about. I believe they don’t know either

      Pretty sure it’s just enhancing and absolutely securing their own power over others. Seems pretty simple, really: whatever vector you can use to legally, extra-legally, or even illegally crush those who don’t want to be ruled by you, foment hate and fear against them, take away their resources, and just altogether put them at your absolute mercy, you take.

      Oh. I’m also talking about the right in general (liberals), not just the nominally conservative ones. Haven’t met a liberal yet with any power who’s not threatened by even the chance that leftist ideas will be realized. Those that aren’t conservatives just don’t seem to feel like it’s quite as inevitable (why would it be when they co-opt leftist ideas and movements and funnel them into liberalism, making sure avenues like the Democratic Party are as radical as people can get), so they’re more content to use legal and general economic methods to subvert, control, and starve us…at least most of the time (but then, there’s always shit like election fraud like they pull against the Green Party, though).

    • Fascism isn’t an ideology that embraces any tactic necessary.

      It’s a tactic that embraces any ideology necessary.

      An ideology would come with some vision for a better future. Anti-capitalists want co-ops and sustainability. Feminists want “traditionally female careers” to be respected and valued and compensated accordingly.

      MAGAs? You will find such a vision conspicuously absent. A whole lot of, “my opponent wishes to ritualistically drink your child’s blood this coming Halloween.” A whole lot of CRT, and Woke, and transgenderism.

      But not a single glimpse of the world they want.

      •  TQuid   ( @TQuid@beehaw.org ) 
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        311 months ago

        You can infer it. It’s hard to see it as a “world” because it’s purely solipsistic. “I get to do what I want, when I want. I get to dictate the behaviour and appearance of everyone around me, on pain of disappearance and/or death. I get to consume whatever I wish; I get to tell you what you may consume to match my self-deluded conception of what ‘morality’ is.” Etc.

        Of course, when your philosophy is tyranny, it ends up not being what all the would-be tyrants wanted, or what they thought they wanted. But they lack the self-reflection to foresee that.