If Linux was dominant it wouldn’t be Linux. There would be more pressure to monetize and there would always be someone willing to sell out for that money. You can see this even in the Linux community today. I’m sorry I had to be so negative about it though, it sounds nice.
Maybe it should say, “If the world went open source, and capitalism went away.”
Even fantasy should have some limits folks c’mon now
Which is more fantastical? Unlimited profits and line going up forever in a finite world? Or capitalism actually ending so all lives can live free from subjugation?
If windows didn’t exist, linux would dominate with the problems you describe, and we’d still see this meme, but advocating for FreeBSD instead.
That being said, I like them both. It’s been a while since I last used bsd, so I think it’s about time I give it another spin.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) English13•2 years ago
Linux is already dominant on just about everything except the desktop, and it has yet to suffer significant enshittification.
Edit: Well, a bunch of Linux distributions have suffered enshittification, if that counts.
Does this also apply to Android?
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) 1•2 years ago
I’m not sure. I’ve only ever used the stock operating system on my phones.
At least it would be GPL tho.
Who, exactly, do you think would “sell out for money”, and why would they have the power to do so? Linux is huge, and the pressure to monetize is there now. Plenty of people have been trying to monetize Linux - and in many cases, succeeding - for decades now. Why do you think being dominant would change that?
I don’t see anyone outside so it checks out.
Not really. Having heterogeneity among operating systems is better than pure homogeneity. Say, if everyone ran Linux, and some massive security flaw was discovered, we would all be screwed at the same time. However, if we ran different stuff, and some massive security hole was found for just one operating system, then only a small portion of the world is vulnerable at once. Besides, more operating systems can lead to more innovation, as long as there is good competition between them.
If the whole world focused and used just 1 OS for every system for a long enough time line, I think it would evolve fast enough to reach a point of perfection, where there are no security holes or flaws of any kind. I do believe that while programming has many ways of doing the same task, there is always an objectively best way to do it. Eventually the best way to do everything an OS needs to do would be found; it would be faster if there was only 1 OS to work with to reach that point.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) English19•2 years ago
I do believe that while programming has many ways of doing the same task, there is always an objectively best way to do it.
I’ve been writing code in one form or another for some 30 years now, and my observation so far has been the exact opposite: there are many problems in programming for which there is no one clearly superior solution, even in theory. Just like life in general, programming is full of trade-offs, compromises, and diminishing returns.
I do believe that while programming has many ways of doing the same task, there is always an objectively best way to do it.
Language has many ways of expressing the same thing, is there an objectively best way to do it?
Is that sentence the best way to ask that question?
The problem is capitalism, not which kernel everything runs. And the reason FOSS isn’t universal is also capitalism.
It’s more complicated to make money producing FOSS, capitalism or not. Lots of reasonable developers would still choose closed source even without capitalism.
Making money is a capitalist adjacent idea. The premise that we need money to figure out how to allocate resources is foolish
I’m still waiting for someone to propose in detail an alternative.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) 3•2 years ago
Yeah, that’s the problem. We don’t have the requisite technology to build a Star Trek utopia. If only we did…
Well, if everything ran Linux…
The premise that we need money to figure out how to allocate resources is foolish
Money not necessarily, we need to calculate costs (and minimize it) in distributed fashion.
And the only reasonably successful way we’ve found so far for doing so is…money.
There’s a bunch of ways to allocate resources but ideas like money have an advantage of allowing people to choose how they live.
A good example would be that not every person would be satisfied living in an apartment in the city. Some prefer living more rural for any number of reasons. Some want to be inside playing video games and others outside biking on a mountain. Some want to be able to do both. Giving them the ability to choose small apartment in the city or bigger house in the woods is important for happiness.
The biggest issue is the discrepancy of resource allocation between individuals not the method that allocation is done on paper.
Dirty secret is that FOSS is a product of capitalism and nothing else.
A bunch of nerds being allowed to own and control the means of production created personal computers while the central planners in both communist countries and big companies both thought it was a dumb idea. A bunch of nerds being allowed to own and control the means of production meant that someone could decide to release their product free with source code. Private ownership of intellectual property such as source code allowed people to release their privately owned code under a license specifying that changes must be made public.
From there, the proof in the pudding is in the eating. How many FOSS projects do you use, and who made them?
Aren’t the majority of computers already on Linux? Unless you mean desktops
No because as others have already said, why would 1 thing dominating everything be good?
Its not dominating everything but we can make foss our own. I.e. Linux don’t dominate over us but “we are using linux the way we want”
they miss the statue of Linus Torvalds
Lmao. You are absolute right.
No, you missed the homeless encampments, forest fires and car centric cities.
There’s no
apt install utopia.Because you have forgotten sudo
Linux kernel
Nah bro, chrome OS is fucking ridiculous not to mention android too.
We need the other linux not just kernel.
No place for bazaar. Looks more like corporations wet dream.
I mean, you could put one inside a building, I guess. It’s really just a very downscale mall.
Would expect the architecture to be a bit more on the brutalist side of things
The world runs on KDE (or gnome)
No, because everyone would be sitting around jacking each other off about using linux, if current trends are to be believed.
There’s a weird secretive compound on the edge of town. If you go up to the gate and try to talk to them they just reply “I use Arch BTW”.
Until the moment someone finds a privilage escalation bug.
:D
So you mean we would have weird useless concrete structures everywhere? I doubt it
It does run on Linux 😁😁😁