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- ukraine@sopuli.xyz
Ukraine’s National Corruption Prevention Agency added major food corporations PepsiCo and Mars to the “international sponsors of war” list on Sept. 1.
Not surprised that a company named after the god of war is an international war sponsor
- outbound ( @outbound@lemmy.ca ) 16•1 year ago
Actually, Mars was named after its founder, Franklin Clarence Mars.
- jcg ( @jcg@halubilo.social ) 19•1 year ago
Franklin Clarence Mars (/ˈmɑːrz/; September 24, 1883 – April 8, 1935) was an American business magnate who founded the food company Mars, Incorporated, which mostly makes chocolate candy. Mars’ son Forrest Edward Mars developed M&M’s and the Mars bar. He is also widely believed to be the god of war.
- quindraco ( @quindraco@lemm.ee ) 55•1 year ago
- xuxebiko ( @xuxebiko@kbin.social ) 36•1 year ago
@Cloudless & I maintain a zine tracking all Sponsors of Russia’s invasion at https://kbin.social/m/SponsorsOfRussianInvasion . We use multiple sources viz. Ukraine govt sites, Yale’s tracker, and credible news sources.
We also have a zine tracking business who have rejected to support Russia’s invasion and have exited Russia at https://kbin.social/m/BizAgainstRussianInvasion
- NumbersCanBeFun ( @NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social ) 8•1 year ago
Thank you kindly. Just subbed to both 😁🍻
- xuxebiko ( @xuxebiko@kbin.social ) 5•1 year ago
:)
- barsoap ( @barsoap@lemm.ee ) 10•1 year ago
Bacardi? It would be off-brand for them to not back dictatorships.
- zephyreks ( @zephyreks@programming.dev ) 10•1 year ago
Doesn’t stop Ukraine from buying drones built by Xiaomi and sold/distributed by Alibaba.
- hypelightfly ( @hypelightfly@kbin.social ) 17•1 year ago
I don’t see why it would. It’s not like they’re in a position to not buy from wherever they can.
- zephyreks ( @zephyreks@programming.dev ) 5•1 year ago
Hardly makes Alibaba and Xiaomi sponsors of war 🤷♀️
- hypelightfly ( @hypelightfly@kbin.social ) 6•1 year ago
It doesn’t affect it one way or the other. What does is their continuing operations in Russia, who started and is continuing the war.
- zephyreks ( @zephyreks@programming.dev ) 2•1 year ago
So…? How does that affect the sale of consumer electronics?
- The Cuuuuube ( @Cube6392@beehaw.org ) English2•1 year ago
The sponsors of war list is a list of companies circumventing everyone else’s efforts to place a defacto embargo on Russia to show that their actions have consequences. When companies cross that picket line, they undermine the entire exercise, making it easier for Russia to continue operations. The idea, for the rest of us, is to in turn boycott the companies on the list so they’ll also experience their actions have consequences.
We have that luxury right now. Ukraine does not. So the idea is that we can help Ukraine by not doing business with companies that are making extra special bonus money by selling their products with a defacto monopoly in Russia right now
- zephyreks ( @zephyreks@programming.dev ) 2•1 year ago
Who’s efforts? From what I can see, only North America and Europe have joined in this so-called international embargo. In fact, not even Mexico has any sanctions against Russia.
What’s the motivation for including companies based in countries that haven’t called for trade restrictions?
Sure, I agree fully that countries based in Europe or North America should follow government policy or relocate, but I’m not expecting companies to behave outside of the policy detailed by their government.
- DrM ( @DrM@feddit.de ) 15•1 year ago
If you buy a drone for lets say 1000$ from Xiaomi via AliBaba, 100$ of those go to AliBaba maybe 1$ goes to Russia. from the 900$ left for Xiaomi, 600 are gone for the production. 300 left, 3 go to Russia. 4$ for Russia. But if this drone helps invalidate only one russian soldier, that 4$ are easily worth 100000$. If it helps invalidate a tank, it goes to the millions. Thats easily worth it if there is no alternative
- zephyreks ( @zephyreks@programming.dev ) 3•1 year ago
Where the fuck is the money going to Russia from?
- viking ( @viking@infosec.pub ) 48•1 year ago
Well deserved. Let’s boycott those fuckers.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) 15•1 year ago
That’s not how you spell “imprison the C-suite of”. Last time I read the Constitution, giving aid and comfort to America’s enemies was treason.
- viking ( @viking@infosec.pub ) 23•1 year ago
Yeah but America is not at war with Russia. Ukraine is. They might not be allies, and not on friendly terms whatsoever, but there’s still a line to be crossed before considering them as actual enemies.
- Empricorn ( @Empricorn@feddit.nl ) 7•1 year ago
Yes, during wartime. The US is not at war with Russia.
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) 1•1 year ago
Could’ve fooled me. I was under the impression we were sending weapons and trainers to one of our allies who are fighting them. Sounds like an enemy to me.
- Rikudou_Sage ( @rikudou@lemmings.world ) 5•1 year ago
Because you’re going by feelings and not actual definitions. Which is fine when speaking colloquially, but if you want to take country-level actions, you better have some law to base that on.
- lorez ( @lorez@lemm.ee ) 3•1 year ago
But I love Mars. It’s so delicious.
- boredtortoise ( @boredtortoise@lemm.ee ) 2•1 year ago
You do have a point… Nestlé is also as evil as they come but a KitKat® is so delicious
- lorez ( @lorez@lemm.ee ) 1•1 year ago
I love KitKat too…so yummy.
- Kirkkh ( @Kirkkh@lemm.ee ) 33•1 year ago
Wtf are these companies doing. Soda manufacturer’s are at the top in revenue generation and at the bottom in risk. They print liquid money. It’s just moronic to risk the horrid PR of looking like you’re sponsoring a kleptocratic war mongering nation (like the Ukraine just accused you of).
- Firestorm Druid ( @v4ld1z@lemmy.zip ) English15•1 year ago
FYI: the “the” before Ukraine is superfluous. You can just type “like Ukraine just accused you of.”
- dutchkimble ( @dutchkimble@lemy.lol ) 4•1 year ago
What about The Hague
- Latecoere ( @Latecoere@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English16•1 year ago
That’s the proper name of it. The Ukraine isn’t the proper name of Ukraine.
- Altima NEO ( @altima_neo@lemmy.zip ) English2•1 year ago
And The United States
- lud ( @lud@lemm.ee ) 17•1 year ago
What about:
- the England
- the Germany
- the France
- the Sweden
- the Russia
- the Poland
Normal country names don’t begin with “the”
“The United States of America” makes grammatical sense. “The Ukraine” or any of the above doesn’t .
- Altima NEO ( @altima_neo@lemmy.zip ) English1•1 year ago
I was being facetious
- The Cuuuuube ( @Cube6392@beehaw.org ) English8•1 year ago
The name of Ukraine is Ukraine. “The Ukraine” was a USSR administrative district. The name of The United States is The United States
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 2•1 year ago
Yeah, no. They can earn millions with Russia, so they do. Spend half on that in good PR, and you still earned millions in blood money.
And if people get pissed? The news cycle means they’ll forget about this in about 3 days so you’re good
- AssholeDestroyer ( @AssholeDestroyer@lemmy.ml ) 1•1 year ago
Pepsi has a history in Russia. They once traded the USSR soda in exchange for a fleet of naval ships. IIRC at the time Pepsi had the 4th largest navy in the world. They sold the ships to Norway.
- OsrsNeedsF2P ( @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ) 21•1 year ago
This explains why LinkedIn was sending out surveys today asking “What do you think about PepsiCo?”, “What are the top reasons you would want to work at PepsiCo?”, to a bunch of people. The whole thing was extremely weird, and obviously a PR campaign
- Phantom_Engineer ( @Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml ) 18•1 year ago
This war brought to you by Rage: Shadow Legends.
- AphoticDev ( @AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 6•1 year ago
You’re gonna give people PTSD.
- Gestrid ( @Gestrid@lemmy.ca ) English3•1 year ago
(Psst, it’s “Raid: Shadow Legends”.)
- Phantom_Engineer ( @Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml ) 3•1 year ago
No, I’m not Raid. I’m my own original game, Rage. People really need to get their facts straight…
- Bipta ( @Bipta@kbin.social ) 16•1 year ago
I’ll definitely be checking what I buy from these companies and making adjustments to my habits.
Slava Ukraine.
- Hexadecimalkink ( @Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml ) 7•1 year ago
You’re a rube
- TremblingTelepath ( @TremblingTelepath@lemmy.ml ) 3•1 year ago
I bet they donated when the checkout kiosk prompted them for a dollar to Slava hahaha
- StickyLavander ( @StickyLavander@lemm.ee ) 14•1 year ago
Pepsi advertising the fighter jet is making more sense now.
- Malgas ( @Malgas@beehaw.org ) English9•1 year ago
They did also have the sixth largest naval fleet in the world for a brief period in 1989.
As a direct result of trading with Russia, even.
- R. J. Gumby ( @ProfessorGumby@midwest.social ) English10•1 year ago
full list here: https://sanctions.nazk.gov.ua/en/boycott/
- AlexWIWA ( @AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml ) English6•1 year ago
Better be careful, I hear Pepsi had the biggest warfleet in the world at one point.
- imgprojts ( @imgprojts@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year ago
As the jingle goes…Pa pa pa pa pa… Coca-Cola…