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governorkeagan ( governorkeagan@lemdro.id )  to Privacy Guides@lemmy.oneEnglish · 3 years ago

Chat Control 2.0: EU governments set to approve the end of private messaging and secure encryption

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Chat Control 2.0: EU governments set to approve the end of private messaging and secure encryption

www.patrick-breyer.de

governorkeagan ( governorkeagan@lemdro.id )  to Privacy Guides@lemmy.oneEnglish · 3 years ago
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By making a minor concession EU governments hope to find a majority next week to approve the controversial „chat control“ bill. According to the proposed child sexual abuse regulation (CSAR), providers of messengers, e-mail and chat services would be forced to automatically search all private messag
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  • Melatonin ( Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    If you don’t have anything to hide, then let them have your privacy. If you don’t, well then, you’re a suspected terrorist or child predator.

    The logic is impeccable.

    Edit: I WAS being sarcastic, but I guess I was getting upvotes from people who like the EU position as well.

    Win-win.

    • AdminWorker ( AdminWorker@lemmy.ca ) 
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      I don’t suppose you own curtains?

      • Baggins ( baggins@beehaw.org ) 
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        I think hope they were being sarcastic.

  • xilliah ( xilliah@beehaw.org ) 
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    deleted by creator

    • sibloure ( sibloure@beehaw.org ) 
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      It’s not about the children.

    • GregorGizeh ( GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Its just pretense. Authoritarians want that data, corps want that data, so they push that legislation.

  • captainastronaut ( captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org ) 
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    Stupid bastards. I hope Apple and WhatsApp and Signal all just turn off service in the EU. Let the users eat these assholes alive when their apps stop working.

  • Azzy ( AzzyDev@beehaw.org ) 
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    What’s stopping someone from just sending public keys or something through Signal and encrypting their messages that way? There’s no way to enforce this with such simple loopholes present. We shouldn’t be focusing on breaking privacy and instead invest in helping existing victims in ways that actually matter.

    • Norah (pup/it/she) ( princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      Whilst I agree with your sentiment, this isn’t how end-to-end encrypted chats work. Otherwise, it would be impossible to know the messages you’re receiving are coming from the person you think they are.

      • Azzy ( AzzyDev@beehaw.org ) 
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        I suppose you’re right, but forging that kind of thing would be difficult, also considering the PKI already in place. If someone has their own email server and they sign/encrypt their email, and host their public key on a key server somewhere, it’s highly unlikely that all three would be compromised. and even if that fails, you could just meet up with them and exchange flash drives with keys.

  • silmarine ( silmarine@beehaw.org ) 
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    How does this affect people self hosting an encrypted chat service? Would those people be at risk of a police raid or something?

    • Infiltrated_ad8271 ( Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social ) 
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      It only applies if there is any profit, even if it is a single ad for a single user.

      • gjoel ( gjoel@lemmy.ml ) 
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        So not Signal, or…?

        • Infiltrated_ad8271 ( Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social ) 
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          It shouldn’t, they are a non-profit foundation that is funded by donations. But take it with a grain of salt.

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    Acts of authoritarian control always claim to be done “for the children”. They don’t care about children, they want control.

  • shiveyarbles ( shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ) 
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    We value your privacy, as long as we can see it all

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