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Cake day: Jan 22, 2022


The pavilion plugin was promised ages ago though no?

I was hoping discourse would actually integrate it as a first class part of the application but they seem to be shy of it. And with no solid plugin to serve as a proof of concept it doesn’t feel like the issue will be resolved anytime soon.

Furthermore there seems to be a real problem with how to treat identity in the fediverse. I feel like that problem is still unresolved. I hear people talking about did etc but I’m not educated on the matter well enough to really say much about it.

Calling this a “robot” is a bit of a stretch but still cool.

This doesn’t seem that funny and also seems to lack self awareness if what the borg were intended to be a metaphor for.

thank you for the info. The article I said highlighted it as a potential point of conflict with Russia but I’m not deeply into that subject so I don’t really know.

I really like Lemmy but it is true that it does have some issues attracting active contributors or commentators. I think some of this might be because it’s a little more explicitly political as a project. Some of it is because it’s newer I think. Some of it is because less people use stuff like reddit to begin with, so it’s kind of a niche audience.

There’s been issues with troll brigading in the past which I think makes the community a little more insular by default.

Is this related to China also limiting cpus to Russia? I read something about that earlier this week.

But this works when it’s hosted on imgur too. Or maybe that’s just an RES feature I forgot wasn’t native.

Also I use the third party app client Boost which does this too. But again it’s not the actual reddit site, it’s probably doing some extra work.

Ranger is great. Similar to Mc.

Also like warp door which basically is bookmarks for your file directory.

And jump is great it’s like a fuzzy finder for locations in your directory.

I think you misunderstand me. There is only one link. It is a link to a mastodon post. That post has 4 images. Reddit is able to take a imgur gallery (which is a single link) and preview all the images in that gallery. I don’t know exactly how it does this but I imagine it’s probably doing some kind of web crawling when it detects that it is a imgur gallery and then crawls the separate images that are found on the page that the gallery link leads to.

Feature request: preview images from image posts on mastodon like they’re an image gallery rather than serving a browser link
Let's say you're on reddit and someone posts an imgur gallery, from an app like Boost you can view and browse that album without leaving boost. But if I post a link to a mastodon toot that has 4 images, and I click the post in jerboa it will instead open a new window into the actual mastodon page. I've argued for the value of "post once distribute everywhere" but if that paradigm isn't right for the fediverse at the very least the ux for linking mastodon image posts could be improved. Instead of posting once distributing everywhere it would be at least possible to post once and then link everywhere. (this doesn't fix issues like trying to get stuff like pixelfed working but it's worth a thought)

Property is a spook. Post scarcity is here. We have to adapt our economic system to the new reality.

Shakespeare didn’t invent Romeo and Juliet you know? Back in the day artists didn’t have a concept of IP. People would just freely rip off and adapt one another.

@nutomic is there a way I could make some scripts to do this myself? Do y’all have recommends generic solutions if I unwanted to build some content distribution tools that plugged into mastodon, pixelfed, lemmy etc?

I don’t think being able to post to multiple communities is an anti feature. Like I said there are plenty of legit uses for it.

At the end of the day I want to post content and the fediverse doesn’t make it easy as it could be. I share your anti-spam values but I think you really just got to open up your mind a little that other people have other needs from ui and trying to force a single solution as canonical becsuse you don’t personally need it is short sighted.

That said this is open source so I could just make the solution myself it’s just I’m lazy and not really technically competent enough to take it on at this time.

I will say I run a mastodon for a labor organization. And the needs of an org are different than the needs of an individual. Orgs pay people to post. Yes this sucks because it means brands get on social media but there’s also lots of orgs that are non profit or activist focused. And where are they going to go when they want to post? Not the fediverse if the centralized media is easier.

A mailing list can work for an open source project but github/lab is easier. You want a vibrant open source project you can’t just throw up barriers and then expect people to crawl over them because you personally prefer a mailing list. That doesn’t mean that mailing lists are bad but it’s that pluralism is necessary in open source ux. Ultimately the goal should be to give the users the power over their own experience.

I don’t think it’s necessary for comments to be unified between peer tube and lemmy per se. Different websites have different audiences. Centralizing comments can have some value but I think the main issue I have here is as a content creator, posting to the fediverse is full of friction.

You want content, you got to make it easy for people to post. I want to post my stuff to lemmy and mastodon but I find myself posting to centralized social media more because it’s just easier.

I think this honestly one of those things where open source people veer into snob territory. It’s like when people objected to making Linux desktop gui better because “you can do it in the terminal better!”

Adopting a more pluralistic view it ux would be wise imo. I don’t think the fediverse has a spam problem. It has a “not enough content” problem.

I think there is still a good use for a “post once distribute everywhere” solution.
I've asked about this before, see my post history. But the fact that pixelfed, mastodon, and lemmy can all be subscribed to from one instance or another, isn't a replacement for a "post once distribute everywhere" solution. Yes its true that a pixelfed and a mastodon can follow one another and because you can post images to mastodon and pixelfed images can have text they can often be basically identical in terms of potential feed content. But lemmy is something that I would post to communities. It would be helpful if I could use an app to simultaneously post to my mastodon, my pixelfed, and to a range of lemmy communities and or cross posting between communities on lemmy. I suggested in my previous post the ability to post to a mastodon with certain hashtags triggering getting sent to different lemmy communities. I think that still works as an idea but I think perhaps this new framing helps explain why it's not as simple as "have them follow your pixelfed from their mastodon". If posting once to distribute to both mastodon and lemmy community makes sense then I don't see why it shouldn't be reasonable that there are some cases where the same is true of pixelfed and mastodon (I said in response to one comment that you might have different audiences) I think the biggest issue with lemmy so far is lack of content and engagement. Same thing is true with mastodon. The anti viral design ethos of mastodon encourages people to avoid tools like "post once distribute everywhere" I think perhaps people view it as potential for spam. But we really need some actual tools to make posting content easier.

How do I schedule lemmy posts?
I make a lot of art with neural networks. I don't want to dump stuff all at once but I'd prefer to space it out for people. Is that feature built into the web client or is there a way to do it via script or something?

This is good for mastodon I’m sure which I like but I kind of feel like Vivaldi is a little over packed with stuff. I use it on mobile because Chrome made a change to the way tab groups where handled which I wasn’t a fan of and I feel like Firefox mobile kinda sucks. I used Mozilla on desktop for the longest time but recently switched after getting a new laptop because it just can’t properly sync my bookmarks between machines with the same account so I got tired and switched back to Chrome after swearing it off. I’d love to know a mobile browser in the chromium family that has proper syncing for the account and has both a good desktop and mobile experience. I just found Vivaldi overwhelming with all the extra crap I didn’t want.

Oh thanks. Not in jerboa yet I guess.

It’s for all generated art. So neural network stuff but also algorithmic, simulated, 3d, interactive installations, and electronic hardware stuff too!

Feature request: ability to view inbox comment in context
I get a reply from someone but I want to see the context for our conversation: in Boost for Reddit I can do that. I can't do that with jerboa as far as I can see.

Why does pleorma attract bad actors?

Should we have a community just for lemmy feature requests? That way people could vote on it and it might give some useful feedback on where energy for lemmy is.
Thoughts? What do the devs think? Sorry for bothering y'all so much with feedback and questions. It must occurred to me.

Does lemmy have crossposting or will it?
Just curious if there were any plans for that or how it's planned to work.

Will this fix the fact that YouTube and Google image search have been broken now for years?

And I’m arguing that concepts have no independent reality apart from words.

The word is not the concept. But the concept is also jot the material reality. You’re reifying concepts and treating them as if they have some sort of transhistorical reality.

Gravity is not the word gravity though! The idea of gravity is not the same thing as the force itself. The word “socialism” is not the material transition of society.

Seriously please take this issue under consideration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reification_(fallacy)

You seem to be incapable of separating map and territory in your mind. I do not know what more I can say.

The issue is not that Marx did not merely use a specific piece of vocab. It is that you can not treat ideas as transhistorical.

Here’s another way to put it by analogy: the gravity of Einstein is not the gravity of Newton. Newton’s worldview and his understanding of his theories in that worldview does not reflect in the worldview of Einstein. We can certainly recognize how Newton influenced Einstein and how that gave foundation for new ideas and evolution of ideas but when Newton says “gravity” he does not mean the same thing as when Einstein says “gravity”. They are using the same word to mean different things. Their use of the word is historically contingent.

Yeah some of thought was based on seeing someone day that it’s best to use matrix for mastodon dms because it’s more secure and keeps you independent of mastodon admins. Chat functionality being independent of platform seems good.

Annoying thing though: you have to have a matrix profile and lemmy or mastodon profile etc. Is anyone working on federated identity solutions that allow people to share identity between platforms?

What I said is that the transitionary period is what we commonly refer to as socialist phase in modern parlance.

Right and my contention is that it is not correct to equate parlance like that.

It would be like saying “Jesus was a Maoist” because you believe that his particular gospel of apocalyptic anti-imperialist spiritualism was structurally similar to certain tenets of Mao and therefore creates some sort of transhistorical link.

Ideas aren’t transhistorical. They are not independent of human minds. They are necessarily embedded in their historical context. They’re not transferable just because they look similar.

To help make this more concrete consider convergent evolution and genes. You’ve probably heard of carcinisation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcinisation

That’s the tendency of animals in specific kinds of environments to trend towards a crablike body form. This has happened dozens of times independently across the Tree of Life over the last couple of billions of years.

There is no “crab gene”. There is no gene which is “crabness”. Two crabs look similar, they have similar material conditions that gave rise to them and we can use human language to draw parallels between them but to reify “crab form” as the concrete “crab gene” would be a mistake.

A gene is a concrete thing. It’s a very specific chemical encoding with a concrete physical history. The “crab body form” is not concrete. It’s an idea, it’s a useful idea but it’s not the physical concrete material reality itself, and confusing the two creates misunderstandings about what is a crab or isn’t a crab.

There’s also some additional challenges that a recursive community style like this might bring, namely how moderations would stack.

Also overly deep hierarchies is generally considered an anti-pattern. Flat hierarchy for websites helps keep things visible. So I’m not totally sold on this idea, it’s just a thing I’ve thought about.

It def looks it which has it’s charm but there’s some improvements I think would help. Development doesn’t seem that active though. Also friendica seems to be mostly German focused and I found the “look for a server” experience a bit rougher than with Mastodon which at least has a “backup server for everyone” with mastodon.social.

Random thought: recursive communities?
This is just a random thought but I was wondering if recursive communities would be useful? What I mean is this: say you have a community for car stuff: /c/cars And you want to have a community for Asian import cars versus another community for offroading. You could make /c/offroading and /c/importscars but you could also hypothetically organize it with /c/cars/offroading and /c/cars/importcars I don't know if this would actually be worth doing at all. It's just something I've thought about for years with reddit. It's also I think kind of how usenet worked?

Feature request? Add field for matrix chat rooms to communities
I was watching a YouTuber and he mentioned in a couple of his videos that he has a subreddit and a discord. Lots of subreddits have discord. I find this interesting because it sort of reflects an earlier period of social media when different functions could be handled by different companies. Famously reddit didn't have proper image uploads so imgur stepped in. Reddit didn't have very good live community chat so people hacked together a solution with discord. Rather than request lemmy cover this existing functionality it seems like it would be good to explicitly hand off some of this stuff to other projects like matrix/element. Having communities with a default "matrix/element chat server" seems like it would be a good idea. Sure that could be jist stuck as a hyperlink in the description but a form field would help push people in that direction. If nothing else I think it would make sense as a social practice to spread. Just a random thought.

Also friendica which I like but can’t get any friends to join. Friendica is also a little dated on its visual design.

I didn’t argue that Lenin introduced socialism. I’m saying that Marx did not use the term socialism to refer to a transitory period. That is the only argument I’m making. Using anachronistic terminology confuses the issue. There’s no point in trying to ad hoc impose Lenin terminology on Marx work. It’s bad historical practice at the very least.

I mean I get it when people say “Jesus was a commie”. It’s a rhetorical tool. Obviously Jesus did not identify as following a specific historical tendency birthed out of the industrial revolution and colonialism. But I get the point that people are trying to make. But it would be absolutely absurd and not useful rhetorically to say “Jesus was a maoist”. That just confuses the issue with anachronisms.

I am not twisting what you’ve said. I’m trying to make a very specific point about how language is used and you’re not listening (or I’m not explaining it well. I admit I am not perfect but I’m trying my best)

Post once, distribute everywhere?
In the early days of social media, there was a lot more interoperability. You could auto post to Twitter from Facebook, Instagram could post to Twitter, subscribe to subreddits via rss etc. Social media companies wanted to grow their share and one way to do that was make it easy for people to post from one platform to many. But with the rise of social externalities (bots, spam, political ops) and the plateauing of growth, lots of these companies closed down their APIs. YouTuber Tom Scott talks about this era some here: https://youtu.be/BxV14h0kFs0 One of the major things that attracts me to the fediverse is the renewal of interoperable promise. A tool that a lot of people used back in the day and now less so due to the lack of api support is "post once, publish everywhere" tools. Does anybody know of such a tool for the fediverse? The use case I see: I post some pictures to my pixelfed account, those automatically get posted to my mastodon account, and if they have certain hashtags or something then get posted to relevant lemmy communities. I think one thing the recent "alternative frontends for lemmy" shows is the universality of a lot of content for different user interfaces. Different frontends serve different use cases (following people on mastodon versus mutual friendships on friendica versus following subject matter groups on lemmy) and their user interfaces create different kinds of community (thousands of followers on mastodon in a porous discourse versus tighter private communities focused on specific subjects on lemmy). It makes sense to decouple to a degree content and frontend. I think having the ability to post once distribute to many different frontends and community types is powerful and something unfederated media simply can't provide. Thoughts?

Does lemmy need karma?
I just realized that lemmy doesn't have karma like reddit. I've never paid much attention to karma. But even so it does seem to play an important role in moderation on reddit. For instance, many subs put a karma restriction on who can post which helps decrease trolls. And while it's true that karma gives an incentive for people to seek karma I think it's overall regulatory principle might be worth considering as a trade off.

Lemmy.ml domain is blocked on facebook as spam
It makes it very hard to share lemmy and get more friends involved when I can't actually link the main instance :(
Lemmy.ml domain is blocked on facebook as spam