Hey Community,

Since I just read a post about the X11 vs. Wayland situation I’m questioning if I should stay on X11, or switch to Wayland. Regarding this decision, I’m asking you for your opinions plus please answer me a few questions. I will put further information about my systems at the bottom.

  • What are the advantages of Wayland? What are the disadvantages?
  • I do mostly music production, programming, browsing, etc, but occasionally I’m back into gaming (on the desktop). How’s performance there? Anything that might break?
  • what would be the best way to migrate?
  • why have/haven’t you made the switch?

Desktop: Ryzen 3100, 16 Gig Ram, Rx 570 Arch Linux with KDE 144 hz Freesync Monitor and 60hz shitty monitor

laptop: Thinkpad L540 (iirc), i3 4100, 8 GB Ram intel uhd630 gfx (iirc) Arch Linux with heavily customized i3-gaps

  • What are the advantages of Wayland?

    More modern and in some cases better performance (as if Xorg performance were bad … but hey)

    What are the disadvantages?

    Basically none of your current software works out of the box (you’ll need a special Xorg implementation that works with your Wayland implementation in order to run non-Wayland applications). Most applications are specific to your Wayland implementation instead of a general application that runs in all environments.

    why have/haven’t you made the switch?

    I did not find one single floating WM that is as good as Openbox for Xorg. Also: Screen recording with OBS is problematic in some constellations.

      • I did. It misses (or missed?) most of the functionality I use with Openbox.

        • shading (rolling up) windows
        • “resistive” window borders
        • menu icons
        • pipe menus
        • freely bindable key-and-mouse combinations for window movement (including all buttons and including all 5 wheel directions/clicks)
        • customizeable decorations (no minimize/maximize buttons, for example, size, mouse interactions, etc.)
        • and some other minor issues.

        Especially the menu stuff makes me not wanting to use it. Since my Openbox menu uses icons for 100% of the entries and 95% of the menus come from pipe menus this is an absolute deal breaker.