That’s exactly my point. You can’t explore a CLI. You need to rely on external resource to first learn how to use it. That’s just not something you can ask of people who want to use computers as tools. When’s the last time you read your car manual?
Sure you can explore a CLI. It’s not unlike playing Zork. You can try something, read the response, and try something else. That’s how I learned the CLI outside of specific command attributes
Info pages, help and manuals are built into the system and commands. You don’t have to leave the shell to read anything. I’ve also explored it just by pressing a letter or two and then autocomplete. But you realize that average people need help to figure out a GUI too, right?
A car manual is more comparable to learning how to drive in the first place. And yes, sometimes I’ve consulted the manual to figure out what lights mean or how controls work.
It’s possible to do amazing things with a CLI in seconds that would be minutes of clicking with a GUI - that’s why they still exist. And sure, it’s tuned towards people who would be “how about I write a Python program to handle this”.
You’re already assuming that command is a valid command. That’s an invalid assumption for an unitiated user. On the other hand, a first-time user can click on icons, or hover over them to find the tool tip. (That name in itself suggests that the GUI should be explored rather than taught.)
I can’t relate at all to the GUI hate. A GUI you can explore. “What does this button do?” “What changes when I enter a value here?”
How does that compare to a command prompt? How would you even start guessing commands?
“Guessing commands” isn’t the way to go about it. Read the man pages. Read the help for commands. Read a tutorial or some examples.
That’s exactly my point. You can’t explore a CLI. You need to rely on external resource to first learn how to use it. That’s just not something you can ask of people who want to use computers as tools. When’s the last time you read your car manual?
Sure you can explore a CLI. It’s not unlike playing Zork. You can try something, read the response, and try something else. That’s how I learned the CLI outside of specific command attributes
Info pages, help and manuals are built into the system and commands. You don’t have to leave the shell to read anything. I’ve also explored it just by pressing a letter or two and then autocomplete. But you realize that average people need help to figure out a GUI too, right?
A car manual is more comparable to learning how to drive in the first place. And yes, sometimes I’ve consulted the manual to figure out what lights mean or how controls work.
that’s just extra friction, with UIs you can explore and figure out at a glance roughly what a button will do
It’s possible to do amazing things with a CLI in seconds that would be minutes of clicking with a GUI - that’s why they still exist. And sure, it’s tuned towards people who would be “how about I write a Python program to handle this”.
That greatly depends on the button’s label
I have a lot of tab completions installed, too, so i can also just hit tab to get a list of all possible options, etc.
You’re already assuming that
commandis a valid command. That’s an invalid assumption for an unitiated user. On the other hand, a first-time user can click on icons, or hover over them to find the tool tip. (That name in itself suggests that the GUI should be explored rather than taught.)That would be similar to saying you are assuming the user has opened the gui application, not just randomly clicking the desktop.
Of course I’m assuming they already know what application they want to use before exploring its capabilities.