•  Lugh   ( @Lugh@futurology.today ) OP
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    1711 months ago

    Some people might scoff at the 2027/28 timeline, but I doubt this is vaporware. Toyota is the world’s biggest car maker, so their claims have some credibility.

    Toyota’s breakthrough is with mass-producing these types of batteries, they still face challenges in real world use - “Problems include the extreme sensitivity of the batteries to moisture and oxygen, as well as the mechanical pressure needed to hold them together to prevent the formation of dendrites, the metal filaments that can cause short circuits.”

    •  zurohki   ( @zurohki@aussie.zone ) 
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      11 months ago

      It’s not vaporware, it’s anti-EV FUD.

      Don’t buy one of those EVs, we’re going to have much better EVs really soon now and you’ll be stuck with something inferior. Same with their talk about hydrogen: EVs are just a fad, hydrogen is the future! … and it’ll be viable real soon now, so stick with gasoline until then!

      Toyota is constantly in the news about battery advancements or hydrogen because it’s defensive FUD to protect their fossil fuel vehicle sales.

      •  shottymcb   ( @shottymcb@lemm.ee ) 
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        11 months ago

        They’re also funding a liquid anhydrous ammonia powered car, as if hydrogen wasn’t a terrible enough idea, let’s power a car with an incredibly toxic chemical that has to be stored cryogenically or under pressure. What could go wrong?

    • The size of the company making the claim has no correlation to the veracity of the claim.

      BP, Exxon, Shell spent decades claiming global warming wasn’t real.

      Philip Morris & British American Tobacco spent decades telling us smoking didnt cause cancer.

      All of whom are or were as large as Toyota.

      Look at their track record and judge their words against their actions.

      Toyota has spent considerable sums over many years campaigning against Electric Vehicles.

      https://electrek.co/2021/09/22/toyota-facing-boycotts-over-fight-slow-electric-vehicle-progress/

      So should you believe a company that says it’s about to table the next huge EV breakthrough when it fouht tooth and nail to slow that transition ?

      Your choice, but I won’t until I see something more substantial than press releases

    •  ColeSloth   ( @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      11 months ago

      I doubt they’re using pressure to prevent the dendrites. Honda figured out a while back to separate the parts in some sort of polyplastic mix of some sort in order to prevent the formation. I bet toyota is also going more that route.