• It was a brand new car rental. It had less than a thousand miles on it. So no, not old. It wasn’t bad by any means, but GM software is just absolutely shit and it showed. The car itself was great.

      • might be a screen size thing. idk. anyway, the car drove great, but man if it’s got the reliability of a gm and the software of a gm then I don’t really think it’s a good buy.

        • Yeah, and value of it is not good. They are behind on charging tech quite a bit too. 50kw on a modern car is just so bad. If you do zero road trips it would be fine, but for a lot of people that relegates it to second car status, and at that price it just isn’t worth it. Hell my 2 year old ID.4 was 10k cheaper and has better tech.