• Never going to happen.

    Defeatist.

    Also never going to happen.

    Also defeatist.

    This is the point in time where I ask how Putin’s boot tastes like. Palestine kept fighting for over 80 years and your view of Ukrainian resolve speaks volumes. Sure, Azov might be the Ukrainian equivalent to Hamas, but last I checked invasion tends to breed extremist groups and those extremist groups tend to be a pain in the invaders ass. Word to IS and Al Quaida, who still haven’t been defeated by US imperialists. Will it take some time for them to get curbed after all is said and done? Yes, just look at the IRA. Needless to say, you’ve got plenty of other historical precedent to contend with.

    • Defeatist

      Wishful thinking trumped reality exactly never.

      Also defeatist

      NATO and Ukraine are never even going to try to deal with Azov, are you going to be going over there to deal with them yourself?

      This is the point in time where I ask how Putin’s boot tastes like.

      Of course it is. Because all you have is rote memorised thought terminating cliches.

      Palestine kept fighting for over 80 years

      Yeah, and even they aren’t trying for complete control of all of current Isreal, which would be equivalent to your expectation of taking all of Crimea.

      your view of Ukrainian resolve speaks volumes

      Insert wanking hand gesture here

      Sure, Azov might be the Ukrainian equivalent to Hamas

      They aren’t; Hamas aren’t neo Nazis.

      those extremist groups tend to be a pain in the invaders ass.

      Azov hasn’t been a pain in Russia’s ass; I don’t know why Westerners are so eager to attribute Ukraine’s success to them and not the regular Ukrainian military. I actually, I do know; Western liberals see Nazis as hyper capable.

      What Azov has been is an enormous boon to Russian propaganda.

      Word to IS and Al Quaida, who still haven’t been defeated by US imperialists. Will it take some time for them to get curbed after all is said and done? Yes, just look at the IRA.

      Did you really write these two sentences one right after the other without realising the irony?

      • I think you need to read it all again, because this grasping at straws is kind of pathetic. But let me do some hand holding.

        Wishful thinking trumped reality exactly never.

        So the Palestinians, much like the Ukrainians, were told they couldn’t withstand Israel. How’s both those things been working out?

        NATO and Ukraine are never even going to try to deal with Azov, are you going to be going over there to deal with them yourself?

        Oh, wow. Do you get your talking points from Betenyahu and Putin? "If you like them so much, why don’t you go to see them? xD honestly, that is such a childish take. Try again, sweetie ^^

        Yeah, and even they aren’t trying for complete control of all of current Isreal, which would be equivalent to your expectation of taking all of Crimea.

        It’s because they have made deals internationally that Ukraine never needed to. That area has long been continuous by imperialistic powers. Palestine itself has been a vassal state for many, many, many hundreds of years. And besides, wtf does that have to do with Crimea? The only people who think that area is continuous are Z-freaks, such as yourself.

        Of course it is. Because all you have is rote memorised thought terminating cliches.

        It is a cliche, but only because there have been so many from the nationalist propaganda engines, both from Russia and Isreal, with their armies of net trolls, who’s only job it is to demotivate and disparage any kind of dissent - and you fit the bill quite nicely, comrade. Boot licking for nationalistic powers is very cliche and cringe.

        Insert wanking hand gesture here

        See? Cringe. What are you, 15? At least mentally…

        They aren’t; Hamas aren’t neo Nazis.

        Damn, that’s dumb. Trying to strawman me, are we? I could probably see my reflection in that brain of yours, couldn’t I? Azov, being a para-military group that is being given more legitimacy by the invading force. Why? Because when you’re being bombed and actually invaded, chances are you’ll be sad, angry and that you will fight back in one way or another. I juxtaposed that to Hamas, run by a bunch of oligarchs who get their funding from the Ayatola and the Iranian regime. But, does that delegitimise the grunts on the ground, who are the only ones doing any martyrdom? Nope! They are still a defensive force for Palestine.

        Wait, what’s that?! NEUANCE?!?! COMPLEXITIES?!?! NO NO NO!!! AXIS AND ALLIES, OR BRAIN NO WORK!!!

        Feel free to take that one out of context,my point is your cookie cutter take is dumb, enablist to Kremlin propaganda and it seems quite obvious who’s dick you suck. See, I can bring variations. It doesn’t need to all be clichés.

        Azov hasn’t been a pain in Russia’s ass; I don’t know why Westerners are so eager to attribute Ukraine’s success to them and not the regular Ukrainian military. I actually, I do know; Western liberals see Nazis as hyper capable.

        Oh believe me, as the war drags on, as Ukraine becomes more desperate… We’ll see the Azovs turn even worse. But who gives AF? Let em, just like Hamas. They are basically self fulfilling prophecies, a prophecy made by the invaders. Why do you think Netenyahu is so big on Hamas? Because he finds them to be useful idiots. The same with Putin and Azov… that, or Putin expects the rest of us to be stupid enough to swallow his propaganda, which your seemingly have.

        What Azov has been is an enormous boon to Russian propaganda.

        Azov was the crux of their propaganda, and using it in the same way as the Kremlin would makes it painfully obvious where you stand. I think I’ve belaboured it a couple of times now.

        Did you really write these two sentences one right after the other without realising the irony?

        What irony? Al Quaida arguably started as freedom fighters, until they got rebranded as “terrorist”. Literally all those groups stem from geo-political and imperialistic military moves. The IRA also became an extremist group after political negotiations had ultimately failed. “Terrorist” and “freedom fighter” are interchangable depending upon who speaks about them. The same with Hamas, the same with Azov, though with Azov they went from being a para-military group to military, and will probably fall back to terrorist at some point - and that Putin think he’s just gonna get rid of them is laughably funny.

        Like boy, go read a history book. You’re such a schmuck. Your reading ability sucks and your methods are manipulative. I can’t only help but think you’re sitting somewhere in Minsk, throwing back Gamer Fuel as your vomit posts on to social media. But that’s conjecture. Fact is you’re probably just another contrarian, a loser in your mom’s basement. Get a life.

        Oh, and if you want to claim “ad hominem”… that shit sailed a couple of paragraphs ago.

        Ok, bye sweetie =) I wish you well.