• I’d probably categorize the keurig as a liberal machine rather than the one where you have to grind, distribute, and tamp your beans.

    (But also, my god yes- the flair is fantastic if you can handle the thermal management prior to coffee making. Highly recommend)

    • Yea, I agree, though one could argue having the money and time for an automatic machine and espresso machine is pretty Labor Aristocracy, haha.

      That being said, I’m a huge fan of my Flair 58, no annoying thermal management issues (for the most part) and great turbos.

      • I liberated my Rancilio Silvia from a relative who decided their covid hobby wasn’t as satisfying as they thought lol. But I still prefer espresso from my Flair most of the time since the Silvia still needs to be PID modded to have decent thermal management.

        I swear if I end up getting the 58, I deserve to be thrown into the ocean. I initially bought the Neo, then sold it for the classic, then replaced the brew head with the pro brew head and pressure gauge.

        • Hahaha, it’s the never ending climb. I went straight for the 58 from a pour over setup because I truly can’t trust myself not to upgrade to it. The hand grinding is getting old though… the Zerno is calling my name but my wallet is desperately fighting back.