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mozz ( mozz@mbin.grits.dev )  to World News · 3 years ago

Doctors didn’t think it was possible to loathe the world’s biggest health care profiteer any more. Then came the hack that set half their bookkeeping systems on fire.

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Doctors didn’t think it was possible to loathe the world’s biggest health care profiteer any more. Then came the hack that set half their bookkeeping systems on fire.

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mozz ( mozz@mbin.grits.dev )  to World News · 3 years ago
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Doctors didn’t think it was possible to loathe the world’s biggest health care profiteer any more. Then came the hack that set half their bookkeeping systems on fire.
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    Genuinely curious:

    Is the author saying that ACO and VBC were decent ideas that got UHG’s fingers grafted into the legal structure, or are they just saying that ACO and VBC are bad in general?

    And I knew that we had some awful structures within our healthcare system, but I LOATHE UHG and didn’t realize that they OWN our medical system. Disgusting.

    • Gaywallet (they/it) ( Gaywallet@beehaw.org ) 
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      To me it sounded like they were saying ACO and VBC are both bad. In fact, it kinda felt like they were attributing their creation to UHG as some kinda malicious moneymaking scheme.

      • sadreality ( sadreality@kbin.social ) 
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        What’s aco? urgent care?

        • Gaywallet (they/it) ( Gaywallet@beehaw.org ) 
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          Accountable care organization. VBC = value based care.

          • sadreality ( sadreality@kbin.social ) 
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            I know how to read an abbreviation… Looking to understand what they actually do within the corruption scheme

            • Gaywallet (they/it) ( Gaywallet@beehaw.org ) 
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              I’m not sure how to answer your question in a manner which doesn’t touch on the same points the author brings forward. Was something they said unclear or are there parts of my comment which you’d like me to elaborate upon?

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                What job do they actually do?

                You suggested they are not corrupt. I am trying to understand where you are coming from?

                • Gaywallet (they/it) ( Gaywallet@beehaw.org ) 
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                  Explaining what an ACO and what VBC are is far outside the scope of the educational burden I’m willing to take on. Instead, have some links:

                  • Here’s a high level review article on accountable care organizations in the United States.
                  • Here’s a high level review article on value based care and what it includes in the United States.
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                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accountable_care_organization

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value-based_health_care

                    You attempted to discredit author of the article over him being critical of these concepts but are unwilling to explain how they benefit patients. I see promises being made but I also see steep administrative costs also, which is the critical defect in the US healthcare system.

                    Based on wiki pages, it appears that these are just another model that serves as band aid on fundamentally flawed system with a lot room for corruption to continue.

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