Could anyone explain to my why some people are trying so incredible hard to turn lemmy/kbin into Reddit 2.0?
Reddit wasn’t exactly great before this migration wave, it hasn’t been an interesting place in quite some time and I sincerely doubt it will get better in the future.
In my opinion most content on there is pretty much trash in a variety of flavors. That and doomscrolling. Sure there is niche subs and I get that losing them to might suck, but everyone managed before we had those and everyone will manage now. There is always the option to remake them somewhere else when Reddit decides to kill them, be it by removing modding tools, drowning the content in ads or what ever malicious shit might happen.
In most cases a massive number of users has been detrimental to the quality of subs. I don’t really see the benefit trying to get as many people to switch as possible. In fact I think there is an argument to be made for smaller communities.
There is also a tendency to argue that people shouldn’t use Reddit. People also drink till they black out and shouldn’t do that either. Or drive their cars over the speed limit. Or pronounce “gif” with a “j”. Why not let everyone do what they want, why does this have to be a binary choice or a choice at all?
Maybe a few people just feel like this is some kind of battle that has to be won. It isn’t. Reddit will try to make as much money as possible at any cost, it is how most companies operate in capitalistim. You don’t have to like it. As a matter of fact I’d respect you more if you didn’t. But it is nothing you will fix by trying to “convert” people to Lemmy like you are a Jehovah’s Witness of discussion platforms.
Or maybe you are mad at spez. Good, he is an ass. Maybe other people will realize that and take it as a reason to use Reddit less or not at all. Maybe they won’t. You don’t exactly have agency when it comes to their decision.
So what exactly is it that is driving you? Do people have friends over there they want to bring over here? Do you miss the endless meme subs and can’t survive without them?
I clearly don’t get it and would very much appreciate some comments, so I might be able to understand your motivation better.
Given that many of recent fediverse newcomers are redditors, it’s inevitable that they want something similar to the Snoo Platform.
I really don’t want something similar to the Reddit platform.
What I want is for the communities I’m in to move over to the Fediverse. Obviously I subscribed to some brainrot meme communities, as I have also done on Lemmy, but I also subscribed to a lot of deeply informative and useful subs that were the frontpage for serious communities.
For example, I subscribed to /r/DSP to read about real problems in digital signal processing, /r/audioengineering to keep up with the trends in music production, and a plethora of music subs to discover new bands. I subscribed to /r/Calculus, /r/Aspergers, and /r/mathmemes and wrote extensive comments about math and its details. I did this because I wanted to talk about math and things I’m interested in for the sake of doing it. Frankly, a lot of STEM stuff happened on Reddit.
I learned a lot from hobbyists and experts who were just there to engage in their craft. I stayed at Reddit because, at the time, it was still a (relatively) safe haven for people to communicate for the sake of communication, as opposed to a convenient side effect of Reddit doing business. Although it was never a perfect platform in that regard, the human urge to connect managed to pop out of the concrete in spite of Reddit’s commercialization of the platform.
I just hope that the niche Reddit communities and their members snap out of it and come over to the Fediverse. I’m not at all ready to recreate Reddit’s centralized power structures, but I hope that the good people behind the screens will join us.
I can understand that. It takes some time getting used to and neither the services nor apps are nowhere near as streamlined as they were for Reddit.
Do you think that is the main reason? I don’t know, but it doesn’t feel like it is enough to motivate someone to spend so much time convincing people here that they need to act now, get new people now, improve things now. Whatever these services here will look like in a year or two, maybe they will be like Reddit. Or maybe they will be different.
Mostly agree. Personally I think it is change that is number 1. No matter how good a new site or app is, people new to it will say it is harder because change is hard.
As far as I can see, the web interface is pretty good minus a few features it would be good to have and the moderation features that the admins need for this larger user base. The app though is not really quite finished yet, at least Jerboa is not.
On the Reddit side, people kind of worship it, but it has some huge issues too. Their standard app was always having issues. Menu missing after update, or suddenly getting lost so every header you pull up pulls up the same article for some reason. The web app, the constant pushing you to the mobile app on mobile, and the stupid asking you for your interests every time you go to the site on the web interface. Say nothing about pushing you to things you do not want and making things you want harder and adding tons of clutter. Only reason I rant a little is just to point out Reddit stuff was not exactly streamlined, bug free, or good for the user. Sure the 3rd party apps were probably a lot better and ironically that is where the big blowup started. Just cautioning that people may not want to hold up Reddit as some sort of ideal example. All apps and sites have good features and bad. Natural to want to keep the good features though. Hard to know for sure what those are without having used the Fediverse for awhile though.