• There ARE people in the world who say, “it’s awful that the only way to make x happen involves suffering. I’ll be respectful of that suffering and try to eventually remove it and minimize other suffering in the process too.”

    We just also need to remember that there are also people who say, “If we wanted to be seen as good, we wouldn’t do x in the first place. The fact that y and z causes suffering too is negligible.”

    Another thing to remember is that capitalism self-selects for the second type.