Nyarlathotep ( @Nyarlathotep@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish • 6 months ago
I’ve seen a number of posts lately like “How to get yadda yadda yadda” but when you click, the content is actually a question about the subject line, which sucks.
If you’re posting a question, please make it look like a question. It’s EASY… Just put a QUESTION MARK at the end of your subject line. It looks like this:
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We’re pirates here, not fucking savages.
Arrrr, I’m here t’ make replicas o’ all yer punctuation!
Avast, wher’ be th’ interrobang!?
Seriously though, while this post is cute, let’s remember not everyone speaks English as a first language, and while many languages do use the English Alphabet, many do not and so there are still quite a few people unfamiliar with the proper English punctuation.
That’s great and all, but for those of us that do speak English and are expecting certain grammatical norms, eschewing those norms, regardless of the validity of the reason, makes it significantly harder for us to parse.
The question mark is not a rare piece of punctuation, either. It’s used in China. It’s used in Japan. It’s used in Vietnamese, every Romance language I’ve ever encountered, and every Germanic language I’ve ever encountered. I’m not saying I understand all those languages, but I can certainly recognize when someone’s asking a question in one because the question mark remains the same.
This is a piss-poor excuse and reeks of the attitude of one who’s never encountered a language that doesn’t use the Latin Alphabet even in passing. Oh yeah, by the way, it’s called the Latin Alphabet, not the English Alphabet.
Not to invalidate the point made, but…
While Japanese indeed uses question marks, you can get screwed if you think that every sentence without a question mark at the end is not a question. For example, this is a grammatically correct question:
それは質問ですか。
for real… the か character I would even go so far as to claim is often MORE prevalent without the question mark.
That’s reasonable. I pulled that info from Wikipedia, and I don’t speak Japanese, so I just was going off that.
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Isn’t that an argument for the existence of this post? Many don’t know this, well, now they do.
My (non-english) native language uses the question mark, but many don’t use it out of lazyness. I don’t think this is a local issue. Also, are there really that many languages that do not use a question mark? I would have thought that is the rarity.
Besides, most english content I read on lemmy are not nearly that bad to justify that.
Fun fact: In Greek the question mark is “;”.
¿Whaaat?
¿Eres tu, Ramón?
If programming memes have taught me anything, this one is that :D
I have to admit that I would have never imagined it’s a different character than the semicolon if I hadn’t seen those. That’s bad optimization right there!
Interesting additional info: in Greek, the role of the semicolon is played by a floating period ·
Somebody needs to get on deduplicating UTF8 ASAP
The irony of this coming from an American. You guys are so clueless.
Yep, non native speakers get the punctuation right every time. Native speakers whose education system is in the toilet are the real perpetrators 😂
Actually my point was that Americans don’t always use “proper English punctuation” since they co-opted the language and then randomly changed a bunch of things for absolutely no reason.
Oh, yeah? I’ll show you! How to punctuation.
Is it here‽
You must be rich. 😏
Are there any languages that don’t have punctuations?
I mean, most languages are not written.