Drag didn't do that...lemmy.nzimage Dragon "Rider"(drag) ( @dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ) Trans Memes@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish • 21 hours ago message-square13fedilinkarrow-up130
arrow-up130imageDrag didn't do that...lemmy.nz Dragon "Rider"(drag) ( @dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ) Trans Memes@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish • 21 hours ago message-square13fedilink
minus-square PyroNeurosis ( @PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) linkfedilinkEnglish7•19 hours agoMy interpretation here is the first person (I), second person (you), and third person (he/she/they) pronouns are disregarded and are all represented by the neopronoun “drag”. I.e. use drag whenever you reference dragonfucker and you’re golden.
minus-square zagaberoo ( @zagaberoo@beehaw.org ) linkfedilink5•18 hours agoThat makes sense, but what is the material difference? Isn’t it ultimately the same thing by a different name?
minus-square PyroNeurosis ( @PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) linkfedilinkEnglish3•18 hours agoMaterial difference of specific pronouns? Someone feels better, and I’m out no extra effort, I guess… It’s as much difference as personal preference in chocolate bar brands.
minus-square zagaberoo ( @zagaberoo@beehaw.org ) linkfedilink6•18 hours agoI totally get respecting specific pronouns, no confusion there. I don’t see how the scenario presented in OP is different from wanting to be referred to in the third person.
minus-square PyroNeurosis ( @PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) linkfedilinkEnglish2•18 hours agoAh! Effectively none. Which does bring up an unusual case: how should drag be referred to as part of a group? They and drag? Or would just they suffice?
minus-square Dragon "Rider"(drag) ( @dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ) OPlinkfedilinkEnglish2•12 hours agoThey. It’s the same as if you refer to a group of people with a man in it. The “he” is discarded. Drag doesn’t use plural independent pronouns.
minus-square zagaberoo ( @zagaberoo@beehaw.org ) linkfedilink2•18 hours agoSome degree of identity erasure is inherent with mass pronouns; interesting question!
My interpretation here is the first person (I), second person (you), and third person (he/she/they) pronouns are disregarded and are all represented by the neopronoun “drag”.
I.e. use drag whenever you reference dragonfucker and you’re golden.
That makes sense, but what is the material difference? Isn’t it ultimately the same thing by a different name?
Material difference of specific pronouns? Someone feels better, and I’m out no extra effort, I guess…
It’s as much difference as personal preference in chocolate bar brands.
I totally get respecting specific pronouns, no confusion there.
I don’t see how the scenario presented in OP is different from wanting to be referred to in the third person.
Ah! Effectively none.
Which does bring up an unusual case: how should drag be referred to as part of a group? They and drag? Or would just they suffice?
They. It’s the same as if you refer to a group of people with a man in it. The “he” is discarded. Drag doesn’t use plural independent pronouns.
Some degree of identity erasure is inherent with mass pronouns; interesting question!