What a cunt

    • alykanas ( alykanas@slrpnk.net ) 
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      2 years ago

      It’s broadly accepted that austerity is the primary cause of stagnation.

      Krugman, Stiglitz, Chang, Piketty etc etc have all explained how cutting welfare weakens demand, which in turn prolongs a period of stagnation.

      The time to cut welfare, if you have a hard on for hurting the poor, is when the economy is booming.

    • Man, there is a lot that you can correlate with economic stagflation. High residual nitrogen in soil. Gay marriage. Sales of left-handed ukeleles.

      Why specifically choose welfare?

      More to the point; do you know what happens to sick people who become poorer? They get sicker and become more expensive to look after. Check out the public cost of helping a disabled person keep some independence versus the cost of looking after them in hospital or a care home.

      These people won’t magically disappear if you pull the rug on them.

      The issue is health, not welfare.

      • Aux ( Aux@feddit.uk ) 
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        2 years ago

        They shouldn’t get sick in the first place. The focus should be on prevention, that’s what is cheaper and more helpful.

        • futatorius ( futatorius@lemm.ee ) 
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          So what do you do with all the people who didn’t have your blazingly brilliant insight and instead already got sick?

          Many forms of illness are not preventable, and of those, many don’t benefit from early treatment. Even among the more or less treatable chronic illnesses, many (such as type 1 diabetes) are not preventable.

          Pretending a problem doesn’t exist doesn’t make it go away.

        • I think you may be getting unfairly downvoted for this particular comment. Because yes, the focus should be on prevention - lack of exercise and poor diet on the physical side and the breakdown of in-person community and brainrot screen time on the mental side.

          Too many people are losing control of their lives for avoidable reasons and that is what should be addressed.

          The point obviously remains that removing people’s support after they have become ill is a bad idea and there are also people who are sick/disabled for unavoidable reasons e.g accidents, violence, genetic disorders etc.

          I hope this conversation has helped change your mind about sick people a bit. We’re all guilty of not thinking things through sometimes and there are a lot of malevolent voices shouting for our attention.

          • futatorius ( futatorius@lemm.ee ) 
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            2 years ago

            Because yes, the focus should be on prevention

            Great idea. But it’s far from the case that all forms of illness are preventable. And prevention strategies don’t always work perfectly: sometimes they improve people’s odds of avoiding a disease, but don’t work in every case.