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 Powderhorn   ( @Powderhorn@beehaw.org )  to PoliticsEnglish · 9 months ago

Hillary Clinton: How Much Dumber Will This Get?

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Hillary Clinton: How Much Dumber Will This Get?

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 Powderhorn   ( @Powderhorn@beehaw.org )  to PoliticsEnglish · 9 months ago
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  •  Powderhorn   ( @Powderhorn@beehaw.org ) OP
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    If you think Hillary Clinton is “largely responsible” for the state of the Democratic Party, you’ve not been paying attention. It’s not as though they were populist just up until 2016.

    •  Rivalarrival   ( @Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ) 
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      She has been a major player in the party since the 90s. She is, indeed, largely responsible for the current state of the party.

      •  Powderhorn   ( @Powderhorn@beehaw.org ) OP
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        Yes, she obviously was a major player. But she didn’t engineer the rightward lurch as you claim. Again, I don’t much care for her, but the GOP talking points for decades as though she was somehow the one pulling the strings was effective.

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          Again, I don’t much care for her,

          Who do you care for? Let’s spend a little more time on people who actually matter.

          •  Powderhorn   ( @Powderhorn@beehaw.org ) OP
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            I care about policy, not the person.

            •  Rivalarrival   ( @Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ) 
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              Yeah?

              Check out the rest of the comments in this thread. Getting a lot of insightful and innovative policy discourse from your post?

              If you care about policy, you’ll avoid any mention of that person in the future. As soon as her name is mentioned, the policy conversation ends.

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                That is a failure on the order of how we have a Trump cult.

            •  t3rmit3   ( @t3rmit3@beehaw.org ) 
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              There is no such thing.

              The person is the one who pursues, builds, and implements policy. A bad person will not be a good ally, no matter their professed policy beliefs, because it is only integrity that binds a politician to work for their constituents once elected.

              Without a good person, you have no way to trust that good policy will follow.

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