They can go the same place they went after Rhodesia was destroyed; Stay in the new more fair and equal country or leave.
Only racists promote ethno-states, there is no need for a state for every ethnicity.
Israel is not Jewish people, I fail to see how Israel no longer existing affects the living conditions of a Jew in Melbourne, but that truth hurts your antisemitic attempt to link all Jewish people to the war crimes committed by Israel.
Anti Semitism can arise again. Conspiracy theorists have been scapegoating Jews for centuries.
Only racists promote ethno-states, there is no need for a state for every ethnicity.
I fail to see how Israel no longer existing affects the living conditions of a Jew in Melbourne
There are literally Nazis in Melbourne. That is why there was a law made a couple of years ago to prevent Nazi salutes. It is contained for now but it is not guaranteed as safe in the future. Jews in Melbourne would gladly use Israel as sanctuary if their life depended on it.
But all of this is purely academic. Jews are not leaving Israel whether you think they should or not. And Palestinians are not leaving Gaza whether Trump thinks they should or not.
You are a racist, lying, history revising Zionist. Everything you’ve said is so logically flawed and easily countered by example that you have to be intentionally acting this obtuse. I am done with you now.
You provide irrelevant links and insults but cannot answer my question:
Why dont you name disruptions of peace [in Gaza] pre Oct 7 instead of calling me names?
So “easily countered by example” and yet you don’t give one. You are done because you have nothing to offer but hate (which is in line with the mysoginy and homophobia of Hamas).
How exactly can you be a non-expansionist Zionist if the existence of Israel necessitated the Nakba? How can you rationally justify the existence of the Israeli state if you refuse population displacement?
I find it hard to find a good faith argument this position.
Firstly: regardless of the Nakba, the reality is that neither Jews (despite Hamas & Hezbollah efforts) nor Palestinians (despite Trump fantasies which Netanyahu/Likud seems to be unfortunately leveraging) are going anywhere.
But since I have Covid and have time on my hands I decided to read into some detail about the Nakba. I found this article which you may agree with except that you may not agree that Israel should exist in any form at all (in which case we should just end our discussion). I also found this article which you would find challenging I am sure but if you do read it I am interested in your criticism of it.
Yeah an ethno state since they are uniquely scapegoated over and over by conspiracy theorists who kill.
Regardless of whether they “should” have one, they do now and realistically they ain’t going anywhere.
Am sure that much of the Australian indigenous community would like their entire country back but they know it is unrealistic so even if they were funded by Qatar or Iran they would not attempt to reverse it in total.
There is still a long way to go for equity in Australia.
I said no children were burned by Hamas on October 7. Seegoon was talking about Oct 7.
You’re right, some of us do.
But it’s very clearly not your Zio biased arse.
Why don’t you name disruptions of peace pre Oct 7 instead of calling me names?
Zionism is the belief that Jews should have a self governing state in the Levant. Not all Zionists are expansionist.
Where would you expect Jews to go?
Jews aren’t going anywhere, neither are Palestinians. That is our starting point. Wishing it was otherwise is pointless.
They can go the same place they went after Rhodesia was destroyed; Stay in the new more fair and equal country or leave.
Only racists promote ethno-states, there is no need for a state for every ethnicity.
Israel is not Jewish people, I fail to see how Israel no longer existing affects the living conditions of a Jew in Melbourne, but that truth hurts your antisemitic attempt to link all Jewish people to the war crimes committed by Israel.
Anti Semitism can arise again. Conspiracy theorists have been scapegoating Jews for centuries.
There are literally Nazis in Melbourne. That is why there was a law made a couple of years ago to prevent Nazi salutes. It is contained for now but it is not guaranteed as safe in the future. Jews in Melbourne would gladly use Israel as sanctuary if their life depended on it.
But all of this is purely academic. Jews are not leaving Israel whether you think they should or not. And Palestinians are not leaving Gaza whether Trump thinks they should or not.
Hey look literally Nazis in Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrol_36
You are a racist, lying, history revising Zionist. Everything you’ve said is so logically flawed and easily countered by example that you have to be intentionally acting this obtuse. I am done with you now.
You provide irrelevant links and insults but cannot answer my question:
So “easily countered by example” and yet you don’t give one. You are done because you have nothing to offer but hate (which is in line with the mysoginy and homophobia of Hamas).
How exactly can you be a non-expansionist Zionist if the existence of Israel necessitated the Nakba? How can you rationally justify the existence of the Israeli state if you refuse population displacement?
I find it hard to find a good faith argument this position.
Firstly: regardless of the Nakba, the reality is that neither Jews (despite Hamas & Hezbollah efforts) nor Palestinians (despite Trump fantasies which Netanyahu/Likud seems to be unfortunately leveraging) are going anywhere.
But since I have Covid and have time on my hands I decided to read into some detail about the Nakba. I found this article which you may agree with except that you may not agree that Israel should exist in any form at all (in which case we should just end our discussion). I also found this article which you would find challenging I am sure but if you do read it I am interested in your criticism of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huwara_rampage
Zionism is the belief that Jews should have a self governing state in the Levant.
By “self-governing” you mean an ethnostate. Jews don’t get to have specific rights because of their religious affiliation.
Huwara is WB not Gaza.
So? They’re palestinians. You think they don’t have family members living on the other side?
Reminding you of the topic of this thread, where I started off with:
Yeah an ethno state since they are uniquely scapegoated over and over by conspiracy theorists who kill.
Regardless of whether they “should” have one, they do now and realistically they ain’t going anywhere.
Am sure that much of the Australian indigenous community would like their entire country back but they know it is unrealistic so even if they were funded by Qatar or Iran they would not attempt to reverse it in total.
There is still a long way to go for equity in Australia.
“Uniquely”? Bitch please the gypsies are still living off the street of germany.
What are the conspiracy theories claiming gypsies control the world?