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 LadyButterfly she/her   ( @LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone )  to Witches VS Patriarchy@lemmy.caEnglish · 3 months ago

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 LadyButterfly she/her   ( @LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone )  to Witches VS Patriarchy@lemmy.caEnglish · 3 months ago
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  •  Lime Buzz (fae/she)   ( @SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ) 
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    3 months ago

    can, not necessarily will.

    •  finitebanjo   ( @finitebanjo@piefed.world ) 
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      3 months ago

      Nah hard disagree, keep your cats indoors or you’re a plague on wildlife.

    •  Tiger666   ( @Tiger666@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Don’t worry, you are not wrong and they are insane.

      •  Lime Buzz (fae/she)   ( @SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ) 
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        I’d rather not speculate on their sanity. However, yes, this is based on the observation of always living with cats. The ones we have lived with do not hunt that often and are not that successful at it when they do.

        It very much depends on where cats live, how long they go outside and for what reasons. The cats I’ve lived with do not go outside often except to relieve themselves and they are well fed, so they feel less of the need to hunt.

        In cities or other urban areas I imagine this is more of a problem. However, where I have lived it seems not to be as much.

        It also comes down to temperment, training, and efficacy of the cat(s) and how well you feed them, most people are so utterly convinced and repeat the same inane talking points that all cats will wipe out populations of other species that they never let them out, but I’ve seen that other species are completely fine where I live. Maybe if all cats everywhere were allowed outside, sure, but it’s not so much of a problem here.

        •  JustinTheGM   ( @JustinTheGM@ttrpg.network ) 
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          I’ve always read “don’t let your out or they will commit ethnic cleansing on your neighborhood fauna” as similar to “treat all firearms as if they are loaded”. While it is obviously situational (some cats don’t hunt/hunt well, obviously some guns aren’t loaded), the consequences of getting it wrong are pretty bad.

          •  Lime Buzz (fae/she)   ( @SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ) 
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            Sure. We wouldn’t choose to live with cats. But currently it’s not our choice, so we do what we can.

          •  Tiger666   ( @Tiger666@lemmy.ca ) 
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            All this coming from a species that eradicates more living beings than any other living creature on this planet. The hypocrisy is astounding.

            Keep telling yourselves that cats are the ones destroying other living creatures and their habitat. I’m sure it helps you people sleep at night.

            •  finitebanjo   ( @finitebanjo@piefed.world ) 
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              Cats are just an extension of the behavior you described. We are responsible.

        •  Tiger666   ( @Tiger666@lemmy.ca ) 
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          Ok, now do humans.

          •  finitebanjo   ( @finitebanjo@piefed.world ) 
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            Humans are letting their cats live outside destroying ecosystems.

            Human behavior is exactly what we’re talking about.

          •  Lime Buzz (fae/she)   ( @SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ) 
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            Humans have so much capacity, even though we are not human, we think they are capable of much good.

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