Now, me to you, I know what it’s going to take to get a peace deal done: Donetsk and maybe a land swap somewhere. But I’m saying instead of talking like that, let’s talk more hopefully because I think we’re going to get to a deal here
What does he mean by this?


They’ve wanted the region a long time
https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-donetsk-region-7a5911e2e47be2e5ce236da1e032d092
But is he not saying Putin’s gonna have to give it up?