I’m simply asking this question because of Lemmygrad.ml existing, and that there isn’t a far-right equivalent of it yet. If Lemmygrad has any standing for its right to exist under free speech, where is the line drawn for other extremist political ideologies? If Holodomor skepticism is allowed, then what stops Holocaust skepticism? (as it is generally accepted the Holodomor was man-made). I’m simply wondering what gives far-left politics a right to promote such extremist views in the Fediverse, when their far-right counterparts would be Defederated in minutes.

  • Should political extremism, far-left or far-right, be an allowed part of Lemmy’s Fediverse?

    by design it literally cannot be “allowed” or “disallowed”, it just Is and Can Be a part of the Fediverse. you as an individual have absolutely no control over who uses Lemmy or ActivityPub generally, in the same way Mastodon can’t stop a community like Gab from using their software as long as they abide by the guidelines. also, there is a “far-right equivalent of Lemmygrad” (exploding-heads) and you’re literally asking the body questions on an instance which defederates from lemmygrad (which many instances also do). this is such a perplexing set of questions in general.

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        This response feels needlessly passive-aggressive; seems like maybe there’s some room to afford grace?

        we’ve collectively spent like 6 hours today just trying to get the site up and functioning because Lemmy is nightmarish to work with, you’re gonna have to forgive me a bit if i’m more blunt in fielding questions which have been litigated for as long as we’ve been here and get re-litigated on the time scale of every few days. this is a very played out discourse in general. i would encourage people to just lurk more to answer stuff like this

          • They’re an admin and the site is 18+ so sometimes admins have to be firm. They only have so many people and so much labor and they get little needling questions like this that aren’t really of value to reply to,

            probably? Who knows!

      • The post is a dog whistle. Far-right communities have existed and still exist, OP is misrepresenting the current status to paint one of the extremes as unfairly perjudiced by the other.

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          Very extreme assumptions about me. I’m disabled and would be killed by any far-right government, if one were in power. I was just trying to ask a question: at what point does free speech end and dangerous ideas begin? I wasn’t trying to say “hey, that’s not fair!!! let racist timmy here if we’re gonna have Lemmygrad :((”, I was simply asking why any form of extremism is tolerated(and why there’s some big deal about exploding heads, which I’ve just recently learned about, and far less talk about Lemmygrad). I personally don’t feel either should be allowed on Lemmy, and that any instances pertaining to extremist ideology should be defederated. Also, I apologize for asking this question on Beehaw, of all Lemmy instances, when none of my arguments pertain to here; I feel my post would’ve been far better had I directly mentioned Lemmy.world/made this post on Lemmy.world. (which is still federated with Lemmygrad, if I am understanding things correctly)

          • I personally don’t feel either should be allowed on Lemmy, and that any instances pertaining to extremist ideology should be defederated.

            i am pleased to report you’ve picked a good instance for this since this is more-or-less our policy.

          • Not here to say you’re wrong for asking and I’ve said so in the other comments but

            I personally don’t feel either should be allowed on Lemmy, and that any instances pertaining to extremist ideology should be defederated.

            There’s no central authority on Lemmy, so nobody really dictates (or can) what’s “allowed” or not, what should be defederated or not. Even if anyone of us feels very strongly they shouldn’t be. The answer to this is finding/starting an instance which has moderation/federation policies to address your needs and standards.

            For us, Beehaw defederates from instances promoting any kind of unkind/bad faith behavior or bigotry whether that be genocide denial, racism, etc., which is why explodingheads and lemmygrad are both defederated.

            Sorry if this is like the nth time you’ve heard these words lol.