I’m simply asking this question because of Lemmygrad.ml existing, and that there isn’t a far-right equivalent of it yet. If Lemmygrad has any standing for its right to exist under free speech, where is the line drawn for other extremist political ideologies? If Holodomor skepticism is allowed, then what stops Holocaust skepticism? (as it is generally accepted the Holodomor was man-made). I’m simply wondering what gives far-left politics a right to promote such extremist views in the Fediverse, when their far-right counterparts would be Defederated in minutes.
You can’t be a fascist and not be bigoted. You can be a marxist-leninist and not as a rule hate minorities. I encourage you to go to lemmygrad yourself, see if you find any hatred of minorities being tolerated there. You just won’t.
I can coexist in a space with them, they’re not going to start calling for the genocide of minority groups. They may dispute the way historical events transpired, but there’s a fundamental difference between “these events didnt happen the way you’re describing” and a fascist saying “let’s mass murder all the minorities because they’re biologically impure”. I can coexist in a space with one, with the other my murder (or the murder of any other marginalized group) is as a rule being outright advocated for.
No matter how hard you try tankies even at their worst are not fascists. To try and equate the two is beyond ridiculous. You can point out that some historical regimes have done a lot of horrible things, fair enough. But ideologically marxist-leninists are not comparable on any level to fascists.
I can not, and will never under any circumstances tolerate the presence of fascism to any degree.
OP mentioned Holodomor, so I’ll just point out that ML’s generally don’t deny that there was a famine, or even that it was exacerbated by bad policy. The specific point of contention is whether it was intentional.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor_genocide_question
Even historians debate this, so I don’t think it’s reasonable to characterize it as “genocide denial”.
It’s a false “question” just like the “question” of whether the Holocaust of German Jews occurred. Genocide denial is precisely what it is.
I wasn’t really talking about lemmygrad, even though they have some VERY questionable defense of authoritarian policies. I have met far-leftists who were more than eager to call for the genocide of minorities under the guise of class revolution.
Personally, I draw the bar at the intolerance of other people regardless of whether that ideology is on the left or right. Hell, I’m sure there are some radical centrists who are extremely intolerant of [insert x people] as well.
I’m a leftist and consider myself moderately well-educated on the topic, but I don’t understand the connection between class revolution and genociding minorities.
Cambodian revolution is a perfect example of this. Killing of targeted minorities under the guise of class revolution.
Whenever someone advocates for violence against some group of people, it inevitably turns into some type of persecution thats colored by the prejudices of those in power and within the existing social norms.
Plenty of anti colonial militia groups turned against minority groups when they took power.
Genocidal people are always looking for ways to disguise their intentions.